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Unable to post the link, but this is one of the strangest things I've ever heard of. Two different airplanes, same problem. Thoughts?


  • Loud 'bang' noise causes Delta flight to turn around twice
    By: Audrey Washington

    Updated: Jan 3, 2018 - 4:42 PM

    • 345

ATLANTA - A Delta flight on its way to London turned around and returned to Atlanta twice Tuesday night.

Delta Flight 284 took off from Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport shortly after 7 p.m.

Delta told Channel 2 Action News that pilots heard a loud noise coming from the plane and, out of an abundance of caution, decided it was in their best interest to turn the plane around.

According to Flightaware.com, the flight made it just over the North Carolina border when it turned around.

The plane landed safely shortly before 9:30 p.m. at Hartsfield-Jackson.

A couple of hours later, the more 200 passengers were put on yet another plane, same flight number, and took off again.

Passenger Alex Brown said shortly after takeoff, he heard the banging noises once again.

“I heard that. I felt it. It was like someone dropping a lead ball on the floor,” Brown said. “And he came back on and said we're going to turn around. Everything is OK with the airplane but as caution, we're going to turn around."

Passengers were placed at nearby hotels. But that didn’t help Brown, who was supposed to be back at work, in London on Wednesday.

"I'm tired. They gave us no information," Brown said.

The flight has been rebooked for 7 p.m. Wednesday.

A Delta representative told Channel 2’s Audrey Washington by phone that mechanics are looking into what caused the big bangs.

“Yes, they have to look at both planes,” said Sarah Lora.
 
Perhaps someone on the ground doesn't know how to secure the baggage doors correctly? That is weird!:confused:

On the other hand...maybe a baggage handler got locked in while taking a nap! twice? :smilewinkgrin:
 
Shopshirt said:
On the other hand...maybe a baggage handler got locked in while taking a nap! twice? :smilewinkgrin:
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A bag cart was blocking one of our CRJs taxi route on the ramp in ATL, and I watched the Chief Pilot push the cart out of the way. Later I was kidding him about it and he asked if I saw who was in it, it was a ramper taking a nap! True story.
 
It sounds like the same couple managed to find their way onto both flights?
 
Compressor stall? I've heard it on a passenger flight.
 
mscard88 said:
A bag cart was blocking one of our CRJs taxi route on the ramp in ATL, and I watched the Chief Pilot push the cart out of the way. Later I was kidding him about it and he asked if I saw who was in it, it was a ramper taking a nap! True story.
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Back when a relative of mine was flying for Eagle, he landed at a regional airport in Arkansas, at night, taxied to the parking area, and there was no 'guy with the orange sticks' to guide him into parking. So, he radios in and asks what's up and they tell him the dude is on break and just to go ahead and park it.. (I swear you can't make this stuff up).. He refused, and proceeded to tell them he would wait, with a plane full of passengers, until they found someone. At one point I believe he told them he'd sit out there all night, if need be. They found someone.
 
CJ Rader said:
Back when a relative of mine was flying for Eagle, he landed at a regional airport in Arkansas, at night, taxied to the parking area, and there was no 'guy with the orange sticks' to guide him into parking. So, he radios in and asks what's up and they tell him the dude is on break and just to go ahead and park it.. (I swear you can't make this stuff up).. He refused, and proceeded to tell them he would wait, with a plane full of passengers, until they found someone. At one point I believe he told them he'd sit out there all night, if need be. They found someone.
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Unfortunately I experienced behavior like that many times at the regional I flew at, mostly at the hubs like ATL and DTW. Had a similar experience w/ the wands at night in DTW when I had to return to the gate for a generator inop, I wouldn't park myself and they finally came out to park us. Then had to wait to depart, engine running, 45 minutes for the lazy ramp agents to push us out so we could depart for Ottawa. Sad thing was management knew of the problem but never did anything about it.
 
I wonder if passengers heard it too? Incidentally, I always wondered why planes didn't have more (or any) cameras around the baggage bay, mechanical components, etc. for pilots to monitor. My old boss at the marina I worked at owned a 75' trawler that he leased out to schools and universities for oceanography work... at any rate he had a number of cameras rigged to keep an eye things from the bridge. I guess that's pretty common on a lot of work boats. Had 4 cameras in the engine room and two in each bilge plus one for the rudder steering mechanism. In an airliner if you get a cargo fire indication the camera could be a great way to see how serious the issue actually is

CJ Rader said:
he radios in and asks what's up and they tell him the dude is on break and just to go ahead and park it
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Totally honest question to you and @mscard88 .. since I've never, and likely will never fly a proper plane that requires guiding in... but why is that such a big transgression? Is it more for liability in case you hit something? If it is in the airline ops manual then I can't see how that behavior would be allowed to continue from the ground crew? Would you ever have the FO hop out and guide you in? I know it sounds crazy but there's apparently a story of an A340 captain getting out on a taxiway somewhere to close a small exterior door... thread here with a link to download liveatc feed: https://forums.liveatc.net/atcaviation-audio-clips/jfk-lufthansa-pilot-leaves-aircraft-on-taxiway/

**I love the controller's reaction when the LH pilot asks him he can get out of the plane to close the door
 
Tantalum said:
Totally honest question to you and @mscard88 .. since I've never, and likely will never fly a proper plane that requires guiding in... but why is that such a big transgression? Is it more for liability in case you hit something? If it is in the airline ops manual then I can't see how that behavior would be allowed to continue from the ground crew? Would you ever have the FO hop out and guide you in? I know it sounds crazy but there's apparently a story of an A340 captain getting out on a taxiway somewhere to close a small exterior door... thread here with a link to download liveatc feed: https://forums.liveatc.net/atcaviation-audio-clips/jfk-lufthansa-pilot-leaves-aircraft-on-taxiway/

**I love the controller's reaction when the LH pilot asks him he can get out of the plane to close the door
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As you mentioned, liability if we hit something on our own and hadn't used marshallers as required by the company. No, I never would allow an FO to get out as anytime the aircraft is powered two pilots are required to be at their stations. Has both what I just mentioned happened by our crews? Probably, but if something had happened and it was reported those pilots would have been out of a job. Flying for an airline you really have to CYA and comply with all procedures. A lot more regulated than GA for good reasons.
 
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From the flight deck you cannot see the wingtips on most transport aircraft so you need confirmation that the wings are clear. you also cannot see where you need to stop so the jetbridge can line up. We have parking systems at a lot of airports that guide you down the lin an tell you when to stop. At those locations you can shelf park if the system is working and all objects are behind the painted safety lines. The ops manuals also require certain things to park, and if you do it without wingwalkers, guide men etc and hit something you will get fired. At any us airline, a pilot will never leave the cockpit to guide a plane in or close a door. The faa would have a field day with that. I won't even touch a cart in the ramp, it's a automatic grievance from the dampers union.

Bob
 
Cameras seem a reasonable feature in strategic locations.

A few years ago a flight experienced odd engine readings (it turned out they were flying through volcanic ash) and the pilot asked the flight attendant to look out a window with a flash light for anything amiss. I wonder what the passengers thought about that.
 
Banging noises? Maybe some newlyweds joining the Mile High club in the lavatory?
 
Contact of mine said there was an issue with badly secured cargo in the hold (hence why it happened again on the new flight). Don’t have more specifics but sounds like it wasn’t anything mechanical with the plane itself.
 
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