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I only miss two things about living in the south - real breakfast and winters that last less than 6 months.

Breakfast up north couldn't be more lame... oooh, wow, look another bagel... yawn. *hard pass* Gimme some cheesy grits, bacon, eggs over easy cooked in the grease of the bacon, biscuits and gravy, sausage and some powder sugar smothered french toast - on ACTUAL French toast.

Love it when they try to convince me, "But but but... you just haven't had a GOOD bagel yet!" o_O
 
Two things I miss about living in the north, real pizza and bagels. The average mom-n-pop NE family pizza shop could make some really nice pies. You go into a place called Gino's, and Geno actually owns the joint and works there, not some guy named Frank. And, Geno's son and grandson work there as well, and they're all arguing. THAT'S a pizza shop. Oh, and Italian food, southerns don't really get that either. But, let's talk bagels. Those sugar encrusted abominations Panera calls bagels are horrible. Give me a good old NY onion and garlic bagel any day. Oh, and plain cream cheese please, just as God intended. None of that sickeningly sweet fruit flavored stuff Panera pedals for their already sweet bagel things. What are they, Diabetes R Us? Seriously, I've still yet to find a decent bagel in this town.

Now, stuff I do like about southern food. BBQ, yea, it's really good, and I totally get the biscuits and sausage gravy thing, Grits, not so much, unless it's a nice shrimp and grits dinner item. Still haven't warmed to greens and ham hocks either.
 
Oh, and Italian food, southerns don't really get that either. .

That surprised me when I moved here in the BHM area as there are Italian restaurants all over the place here, local not chains. Well there are chains too, but I despise Olive Garden. Met many people w/ Italian names which you don't see in most places in the south. Researched a bit and discovered that Italian immigrants were sent here basically right off the boat in NY to work in the steel industry here, which was big at one time. US Steel is still here though, and probably a few others. The Italian joint I go to is owned and operated by a family that immigrated from Italy, and it's soooo good, close to my Italian grandmother's cooking. A lot of Greeks here too, so combined with the local southern food we're good! Oh, and of course Mex restaurants in almost every strip center....
 
The Italian joint I go to is owned and operated by a family that immigrated from Italy, and it's soooo good, close to my Italian grandmother's cooking.

Sounds like a southeast Italian cooking lunch run might be in order, is the place close to an airport? C'mon medical!
 
Sounds like a southeast Italian cooking lunch run might be in order, is the place close to an airport? C'mon medical!

They sold their restaurant to a corporation that buys and operates local restaurants, and they didn't change anything so it's still good. The father passed a few years ago. The remaining family (daughter & mother) opened a smaller restaurant about 30 minutes south of here and it is yummy just like the original. The brother also owns a small mostly take out joint in the area too.

It's called Joe's Italian in Alabaster, and closest airport is Shelby County (KEET) and probably a 10-15' ride. The other one (daughter's) is called Bertolone's (family name) and is in Clanton Al probably 5-10' from the Clanton airport.
 
That surprised me when I moved here in the BHM area as there are Italian restaurants all over the place here, local not chains. Well there are chains too, but I despise Olive Garden. Met many people w/ Italian names which you don't see in most places in the south. Researched a bit and discovered that Italian immigrants were sent here basically right off the boat in NY to work in the steel industry here, which was big at one time. US Steel is still here though, and probably a few others. The Italian joint I go to is owned and operated by a family that immigrated from Italy, and it's soooo good, close to my Italian grandmother's cooking. A lot of Greeks here too, so combined with the local southern food we're good! Oh, and of course Mex restaurants in almost every strip center....


Yep, B'ham is really a northern city in many ways. It was mostly built by yankee steel money after the civil war. Montgomery is, of course, very southern, and there's quite a contrast between the two cities.
 
Yep, B'ham is really a northern city in many ways. It was mostly built by yankee steel money after the civil war. Montgomery is, of course, very southern, and there's quite a contrast between the two cities.

Oh yeah! Lived in MGM about 16 years. Better now though with downtown fixed up. Used to be nothing really to do there at night. I like the hotel w/ a beautiful concert hall down there, forget the name. Been to a half dozen concerts there, always a good show and time.
 
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For many years, I-20 ended on one side of Birmingham and started up again on the other. I was told George Wallace had blocked completion of it through town in retaliation for B'ham voting against him in the presidential election.

Like the song says, "In Birmingham they love the Governor! Boo, boo, boo."
 
For many years, I-20 ended on one side of Birmingham and started up again on the other. I was told George Wallace had blocked completion of it through town in retaliation for B'ham voting against him in the presidential election.
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At least he didn't close a bridge into NYC during morning commute like a certain Guv...:popcorn:
 
Do they have diners in the south, like they do (or at least did) in the NE?
 
S-Town...

I'd highly recommend it to anyone who hasn't listened to it. Of course, when I'm working, I'm typically behind the wheel for 2 or 3 hours/day. It's easy for me to listen to a 7 part podcast with each episode being nearly an hour long...

https://stownpodcast.org/
 
Do they have diners in the south, like they do (or at least did) in the NE?

Yeah but they're called Waffle House. :D

But no, not really any diners like up north. There's a few around here and there though.
 
If you want good grits, though, you'll have to go to Blairesville, GA, to a little hole-in-the wall place called Hole In The Wall. Well worth the trip.
 
Two things I miss about living in the north, real pizza and bagels. The average mom-n-pop NE family pizza shop could make some really nice pies. You go into a place called Gino's, and Geno actually owns the joint and works there, not some guy named Frank. And, Geno's son and grandson work there as well, and they're all arguing. THAT'S a pizza shop. Oh, and Italian food, southerns don't really get that either. But, let's talk bagels. Those sugar encrusted abominations Panera calls bagels are horrible. Give me a good old NY onion and garlic bagel any day. Oh, and plain cream cheese please, just as God intended. None of that sickeningly sweet fruit flavored stuff Panera pedals for their already sweet bagel things. What are they, Diabetes R Us? Seriously, I've still yet to find a decent bagel in this town.
Since I moved out of metro NYC a few decades ago I haven't had a decent bagel.

Reminds me of the M*A*S*H episode where they order from Adams Ribs in Chicago.
 
Being a native-born Southerner, I tell people that I didn't know "damned Yankee" was two words until I was in high school (and met more than just one or two of 'em!)
Friggin' uppity Rebel....
 
If you want good grits, though, you'll have to go to Blairesville, GA, to a little hole-in-the wall place called Hole In The Wall. Well worth the trip.
Also Big Bad Breakfast in Oxford, MS. Aside from their grits, they have house cured Tabasco bacon.

I only miss two things about living in the south - real breakfast and winters that last less than 6 months.

Breakfast up north couldn't be more lame... oooh, wow, look another bagel... yawn. *hard pass* Gimme some cheesy grits, bacon, eggs over easy cooked in the grease of the bacon, biscuits and gravy, sausage and some powder sugar smothered french toast - on ACTUAL French toast.

Love it when they try to convince me, "But but but... you just haven't had a GOOD bagel yet!" o_O
Agreed with your assessment of breakfast up there in general. But I see you are in New England. Good bagels are in NYC. But you have to look for them anymore. I was surprised my last visit a few months ago I can still get a street cart knish...sold by a nice Muslim person.
 
No that was Ted Cassidy.

Gotta get your 60's monster sitcoms straight...

Really! Always thought he was Lurch. I don't recall any other monster show besides The Munsters. What were other ones? Might have been chasing poontang by then though. :D
 
I only miss two things about living in the south - real breakfast and winters that last less than 6 months.

Breakfast up north couldn't be more lame... oooh, wow, look another bagel... yawn. *hard pass* Gimme some cheesy grits, bacon, eggs over easy cooked in the grease of the bacon, biscuits and gravy, sausage and some powder sugar smothered french toast - on ACTUAL French toast.

Love it when they try to convince me, "But but but... you just haven't had a GOOD bagel yet!" o_O


Darlin', if that's all you miss, you must not have ever had Carolina BBQ, or been to a real deep-south fish fry, or had boiled shrimp straight off the shrimp boats in St Augustine, or enjoyed authentic Key lime pie, or a glass of OJ from an orange that was hanging on the tree 10 minutes before, or a slice of sweet potato pie, or....

Excuse me. I seem to be drooling.
 
Really! Always thought he was Lurch. I don't recall any other monster show besides The Munsters. What were other ones? Might have been chasing poontang by then though. :D
The Addams Family = Lurch = Ted Cassidy
The Munsters = Herman = Fred Gwynne

I think you're right about the timing.
 
I dated Fred Gwynne's daughter a few times in the early 90's. Not enough to be taken home to meet Daddy. But she sure had his smile.
 
The Addams Family = Lurch = Ted Cassidy
The Munsters = Herman = Fred Gwynne

I think you're right about the timing.

Adams Family. Yeah that was a favorite for sure, and the Munsters. Were they in B&W or maybe that's all my family had.
 
I only miss two things about living in the south - real breakfast and winters that last less than 6 months.

Breakfast up north couldn't be more lame... oooh, wow, look another bagel... yawn. *hard pass* Gimme some cheesy grits, bacon, eggs over easy cooked in the grease of the bacon, biscuits and gravy, sausage and some powder sugar smothered french toast - on ACTUAL French toast.

Love it when they try to convince me, "But but but... you just haven't had a GOOD bagel yet!" o_O
First, just give up on the bagel thing. Don’t even bother, you will never get it. Stick to Southen things. Where you live I could find good bagels in about 2 minutes. Here there really aren’t much. Making them takes a full day for me, with ingredients I can only find on the internet. I still do it a few times a year. I get bagels.
I don’t get grits and never will. I suppose if you put enough fat and salt in them they’d taste good, but put enough salt and fat in anything and it tastes good. Indeed that is a huge problem down South. Everyone puts lots of fat and salt in everything resulting in their growing to the size of houses. The rates of obesity, diabetes, and other lifestyle-related metabolic disorders are at epidemic levels.
What we do up North is make things taste good without all the salt and fat. Things like bagels.
 
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Eggs over easy over leftover meat loaf.

Rich
 
Darlin', if that's all you miss, you must not have ever had Carolina BBQ, or been to a real deep-south fish fry, or had boiled shrimp straight off the shrimp boats in St Augustine, or enjoyed authentic Key lime pie, or a glass of OJ from an orange that was hanging on the tree 10 minutes before, or a slice of sweet potato pie, or....

Excuse me. I seem to be drooling.

Yeah, that's all good, and I can eat tater pie any time, but the original comment was about missjng good Southern breakfast. Maybe bagels are why so many Yankees are in such bad moods all the time? That, and there's so durn many of 'em everywhere . . . Yankees, not bagels . . .
 
Yeah, that's all good, and I can eat tater pie any time, but the original comment was about missjng good Southern breakfast. Maybe bagels are why so many Yankees are in such bad moods all the time? That, and there's so durn many of 'em everywhere . . . Yankees, not bagels . . .
Lots of Yankees are in a bad mood 'cause the wx up here sucks. That said, it is almost never lethal, which suits me just fine. To be honest, I've got people just south of me who think themselves as southerners, and about 100 miles North is the Canadian border. Where are all these Yankees again?

If that's the kind of breakfast you like, of course more power to you. I couldn't imagine eating that much first thing in the morning, and if I did I'd not be able to eat anything else until fairly late in the evening. We in the Steinholme are truly blessed right now. My fermented pickles came out really really, good, probably my best. And my giardinaria came out scrumptious as well. I'd set up for some Kimchee but I'm running out of room. You all can have your damn grits.
 
To be honest, I've got people just south of me who think themselves as southerners, and about 100 miles North is the Canadian border. Where are all these Yankees again?

A couple of months ago I was visiting my son in New Hampshire, and we decided to go to a shooting range. The guy behind he counter was talking to us about his gun and the various gun laws. He was telling us that New Hampshire had some pretty good gun laws but “down South” his weapon and magazine would be illegal and that “the South” has some pretty restrictive gun laws.

Now wait just a gol darned minute here. I grew up “down South” in Tennessee. Pretty sure “restrictive gun laws” and “down South” don’t go together at all, so I questioned him further. Turns out “down South” to a New Hampshirian (Hampshirite?) is Massachusetts. I guess it’s all relative. To me, they’re both “up North”.


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Lots of Yankees are in a bad mood 'cause the wx up here sucks. That said, it is almost never lethal, which suits me just fine. To be honest, I've got people just south of me who think themselves as southerners, and about 100 miles North is the Canadian border. Where are all these Yankees again?

If that's the kind of breakfast you like, of course more power to you. I couldn't imagine eating that much first thing in the morning, and if I did I'd not be able to eat anything else until fairly late in the evening. We in the Steinholme are truly blessed right now. My fermented pickles came out really really, good, probably my best. And my giardinaria came out scrumptious as well. I'd set up for some Kimchee but I'm running out of room. You all can have your damn grits.

I can't stand eating right after I wake up, either. It makes me nauseous to think about it. But I usually get up between 5:00 and 5:30, and I don't eat breakfast until about 8:30. That makes it more of an early brunch. Usually I make eggs and Something Else.

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Not much there for a vegan other than the peppers and onions, I'm afraid.

Rich
 
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