Garmin G3X Touch in a Certificated Airplane

Yes but will they now promote this and work on STCs at the expense of the G500/600 now to compete better with dynon? Is a G500/600 upgrade coming?

Anyone heard anything?


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This is Cubcrafters' achievement, not Garmin's. Certificated airplanes are catching up with the experimentals!
 
Stewartb said:
This is Cubcrafters' achievement, not Garmin's. Certificated airplanes are catching up with the experimentals!
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I'd be surprised if this could have been accomplished without Garmin, at least their approval...


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This is big news as a G3X Touch is a mere $4k (not including nominal incidentals such as converters and whatnot.) It's a total gamechanger for the entire avionics industry.

I was about to pull the trigger on a second G5 for an HSI (and I still may do that, in fact) but for now I'm holding back to see what kind of legs this thing has. What an amazing development.
 
Ryan F. said:
This is big news as a G3X Touch is a mere $4k (not including nominal incidentals such as converters and whatnot.) It's a total gamechanger for the entire avionics industry.
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Keep in mind, the experimental version of the G5 is $1199, while the certified version ranges from $2,149 to $2,975.

Garmin is not known for charging less than the most the market will bear. ;)

It's an exciting time to be a pilot, though! I can't wait to see what's available a year from now.
 
Hey guys, I'm pretty new about this avionic upgrades thing, I do understand that the same kind of avionic seems to be cheaper for experimental AC than certified AC which for me is ridiculous, but I guess that a different topic, how ever, could you guys explain me a bit more how does it work if per say I would like to add a G5 to an old C172 with just basic avionics?
 
I would think the biggest challenge to this would be the production of instrument panels to fit the G3X into a certified aircraft. Not sure if you could claim it as an owner produced part and make it your self or if you have to wait until someone develops an STC for your airplane.
 
Dayron Nunez said:
how does it work if per say I would like to add a G5 to an old C172 with just basic avionics?
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Might need to add some specificity to your question to get a better quality answer....

But in general
  1. Find the avionics shop you want to work with
  2. Sign the contract to have the work done
  3. Pay the shop the agreed amount of starting money
  4. Shop purchases avionic(s)
  5. Shop installs/test avionic(s)
  6. Shop has aircraft owner test fly with the tech or shop owner to shakedown the equipment and install
  7. Shop fixes any initial squawks
  8. Final Payment and final Paperwork (including logbook stickers)
  9. Aircraft owner flies off, hopefully very happy with purchase.
 
Grum.Man said:
I would think the biggest challenge to this would be the production of instrument panels to fit the G3X into a certified aircraft. Not sure if you could claim it as an owner produced part and make it your self or if you have to wait until someone develops an STC for your airplane.
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thats been a sticky point for a long time. ask the FAA about putting a flat metal panel in any certified aircraft. some get around it by calling it "fabricated a metal overlay to replace original plastic overlay". that is one of the big draws to the aspen, aspen has the STC to replace the panel in the aircraft they have the stc for. the G5 and D10 STC also address opening up the panel for the new unit. I have not seen the STC for the G3x or the skyview, it will be interesting to see how that is addressed on those installations. I addressed it when I did my PA-30 by leaving the old panel and mounting the new one to the mounting pads for the plastic and just calling it a metal overlay to replace the plastic overlay.
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Dayron Nunez said:
Hey guys, I'm pretty new about this avionic upgrades thing, I do understand that the same kind of avionic seems to be cheaper for experimental AC than certified AC which for me is ridiculous, but I guess that a different topic?
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Why, they obviously had to do extra work to certify it, involving engineers, lawyers who like to get paid for their work. They also will have to re certify every software update for years,decades to come which they provide as a free service.
 
gsengle said:
I'd be surprised if this could have been accomplished without Garmin, at least their approval...


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The Garmin folks at OSH told me they had nothing to do with it, nor were they spending any time on certified approvals of any kind for the G3X.
 
mkosmo said:
The Garmin folks at OSH told me they had nothing to do with it, nor were they spending any time on certified approvals of any kind for the G3X.
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Interesting. How aware were they of dynon?


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gsengle said:
Interesting. How aware were they of dynon?


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The guy I spoke to last on the matter made it sound like they weren't even concerned. Now, it could have been all for show... It could have been that they were out of the loop... It could have even been that they're going to let Dynon pave the way and capitalize on it, knowing that the brand name will carry weight. Lots of speculation at this point :)
 
mkosmo said:
The guy I spoke to last on the matter made it sound like they weren't even concerned. Now, it could have been all for show... It could have been that they were out of the loop... It could have even been that they're going to let Dynon pave the way and capitalize on it, knowing that the brand name will carry weight. Lots of speculation at this point :)
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And it could well be there is a G50 replacement coming soon that they will price accordingly...


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Avionics world is changing in a fast pace. Reminds me of computer world...rt when u buy something, a better one with cheaper price is available soon. As a consumer I don't think I can ever keep up with this. But if this will help me get rid of the vacuum pump, I am all in. Think dual G5 and GFC 500 combo will get rid of the vacuum as well

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mkosmo said:
The Garmin folks at OSH told me they had nothing to do with it, nor were they spending any time on certified approvals of any kind for the G3X.
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I bet they are now! :goofy:

Seriously, by the end of the week they were doing everything except coming right out and saying they were going to have a G3X Touch certified.
 
flyingcheesehead said:
I bet they are now! :goofy:

Seriously, by the end of the week they were doing everything except coming right out and saying they were going to have a G3X Touch certified.
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They changed on a dime, then! Glad to hear it. Friday was the last I talked to them.
 
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