Really nice logbook?

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Does anyone make a really nice leather bound logbook that will take you from student to comercial? I'm thinking it would have a section for signoffs, maybe a checklist like some of the other student logbooks.

Anyways. . Just want to find a really nice one that will last forever.
 
You will go through several logbooks in your career. I have four full with yellowed pages and broken bindings. That's what happens over many years. I now use electronic, which can be printed a nicely bound.
 
This might be what you're looking for: http://www.sportys.com/pilotshop/ai...ies/senior-pilot-s-flight-log-and-record.html

I've got the smaller ("non-senior") version of this one, which has served me well for the past decade or so. Probably my only gripe is that the "engraving" in this thin gold-like film that doesn't really last. I was expecting something more like a metal plate. Other than that, though, it's a nice logbook. Hardcover, sewn binding, heavy paper, etc.

That all said, I struggle to keep it up-to-date, given that I log everything electronically nowadays. I still do for sentimental reasons, but I think I'll eventually move to all-electronic.
 
What Jordan said, a logbook is a logbook. Even if you find one that's gold plated, the time entered will have the same value as any other.

Any basic logbook you purchase should have enough blanks to get you through commercial.
 
Its the nostalgia.. i found a couple on Google, they just look like they might be cheap. Didn't know if anyone had one.
 
Vintage would be nice. I like the leather books though. My friends jeppesen is 14 years old and shows it.
 
If you really want to go "Gucci," get any log book. Get the format you want as far as the pages go. You can copy and add more endorsement pages if you want. You can add any other pages you want. You can lose pages you don't. Now take it to a book binder. Design what you want. Choose the animal you want for the leather.
 
JC565 said:
http://www.pilotshop.com/catalog/ps...erm=13-02139&gclid=COWXiZHHltQCFZu3wAodRdsJ5w

No reviews...5 blank columns looks kinda funny. .


I did see one that was verticle and had check boxes for all the steps you need to Complete. I thought it was neat how it was laid out. Can't seem to find it now unfortunately
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No reviews Probably reflects the limited market for a $109 logbook. That aside, the blank columns make sense. There are a number of non-required things pilots track and total. Some do and some don't. Complex and tailwheel time is an example. So is point to point cross country flights.
 
Just get the standard Jepp, you'll end up going electronic not too long after your CPL anyways
 
I'm on my third book...I'm using the large ASA one. I invested in the little slip cover case to keep it clean and dry (Logbook 2 got wet one time when I had it with me while camping at Oshkosh. I don't recall why, but it was likely in my flight bag because I was in the middle of getting tail dragger instruction when I left for the show.
 
I had the opposite issue... I don't want columns for instrument, multi, etc., I don't do that kind of flying, but I do need blank columns for my own use. For my last logbook, I made my own, made the pages on the computer and printed them, stitched it together, covers of heavy cardboard covered with a sheet of bonded leather scrounged from a bookbinder. Now I'm on the next to last page, gotta figure out what to do for the next one.
 
I use the Master by ASA. Bunch of empty columns you can label yourself, such MEL, SEL, turbo-prop, jet, etc. Been flying for over 40 years and I must have 5-6 of them filled up.

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Timbeck2 said:
Nauga's are good. A good naugahide logbook will be the envy of the aerodrome.
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That's so irresponsible. Guys like you are why we rarely see a nauga in the wild anymore. Soon they'll be gone forever, just so uncaring SOBs can have fancy logbooks.

Save the endangered nauga!
 
Like the others here, I'd go with a standard Jepp logbook until you get to the point in your flying where you rarely need any kind of signoff for dual received. Then switch to electronic, and from there you can print the pages and place them in as nice of a three ring binder as you'd like. There are tons of options out there.
 
Half Fast said:
That's so irresponsible. Guys like you are why we rarely see a nauga in the wild anymore. Soon they'll be gone forever, just so uncaring SOBs can have fancy logbooks.

Save the endangered nauga!
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Nothing better than a nice nauga tenderloin steak with spotted owl chef's salad.
 
I used the Jeppesen pro-pilot logbook when i still kept a paper handwritten logbook. Now i keep fully digital (I personally use log ten pro-x) you can sign digitally for endorsements and it will print logbook entries with CFI signatures etc. you can then print it out to keep a bound version as well. I have the Prosoft Binders one for my digital print out as it makes it very easy to print and add the pages into my "paper" one as they fill up myself. Most of the logbook softwares available will have a way to turn it into a PDF/printable logbook form (from a variety of different logbook forms, mine printed looks like the Jepp Pro Pilot Logbook format) and then there are many print/bind logbook services and options or just as someone mentioned off to your local stapes and they can print and bind it.

IMPORTANT
even if you want to keep a hand written paper logbook, PLEASE do yourself a favor and keep an electronic one from day one as well. It makes it extremely easy to keep track of totals and currencies and watch for errors. Also if you ever plan on applying for an airline or corporate type job it makes filling out the applications with the tedious detailed flight time questions they ask a breeze. You will thank yourself later for starting an electronic logbook now rather than forgoing it or trying to figure it out later!
 
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JC565 said:
http://www.pilotshop.com/catalog/ps...erm=13-02139&gclid=COWXiZHHltQCFZu3wAodRdsJ5w

No reviews...5 blank columns looks kinda funny. .


I did see one that was verticle and had check boxes for all the steps you need to Complete. I thought it was neat how it was laid out. Can't seem to find it now unfortunately
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IMHO blank columns are the best way to go. I realized that when I bought my sixth. Labeled the columns myself. Thirty-two hours on floats doesn't deserve a column years after they were logged. When I went to the FAA for the mandatory logbook check before taking the ATP written the ops inspector did not bat an eye.

Bob
 
JustinD said:
I used the Jeppesen pro-pilot logbook when i still kept a paper handwritten logbook. Now i keep fully digital (I personally use log ten pro-x) you can sign digitally for endorsements and it will print logbook entries with CFI signatures etc. you can then print it out to keep a bound version as well. I have the Prosoft Binders one for my digital print out as it makes it very easy to print and add the pages into my "paper" one as they fill up myself. Most of the logbook softwares available will have a way to turn it into a PDF/printable logbook form (from a variety of different logbook forms, mine printed looks like the Jepp Pro Pilot Logbook format) and then there are many print/bind logbook services and options or just as someone mentioned off to your local stapes and they can print and bind it.

IMPORTANT
even if you want to keep a hand written paper logbook, PLEASE do yourself a favor and keep an electronic one from day one as well. It makes it extremely easy to keep track of totals and currencies and watch for errors. Also if you ever plan on applying for an airline or corporate type job it makes filling out the applications with the tedious detailed flight time questions they ask a breeze. You will thank yourself later for starting an electronic logbook now rather than forgoing it or trying to figure it out later!
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I've been dragging my feet with this. I only have like ~2500 hours and I almost filled up my second logbook. I know if I don't start an electronic book soon, I'll never do it. My goal is to set it up after I get the upgrade.
 
jordane93 said:
I've been dragging my feet with this. I only have like ~2500 hours and I almost filled up my second logbook. I know if I don't start an electronic book soon, I'll never do it. My goal is to set it up after I get the upgrade.
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I've flown with a lot of first officers, and captains before i upgraded and other people who also have that same predicament, so far into it, just want to wait until the upgrade or some other milestone and start from that point on, but i would still recommend doing it now!

I started an electronic logbook before I went to the airlines which made it much easier, and yes its very tedious to get all the previous hours in (i went back and did all 800 hours I already had before i started my electronic logbook) but it will probably be a lot nicer/easier if you have everything in your electronic logbook, if not the totals and everything else will really never match up....of course you could create one big generic entry, but when it comes to finding out how many hours you have in CRJ-200 vs the 900 at night, it would be pretty hard to figure out unless it was all in the electronic logbook piece by piece!

Don't forget there are electronic logbook services online that you can send in a photocopy of your logbook pages and they will literally create each entry for you one by one including comments and email you back the file to import your logbook
 
JustinD said:
I've flown with a lot of first officers, and captains before i upgraded and other people who also have that same predicament, so far into it, just want to wait until the upgrade or some other milestone and start from that point on, but i would still recommend doing it now!

I started an electronic logbook before I went to the airlines which made it much easier, and yes its very tedious to get all the previous hours in (i went back and did all 800 hours I already had before i started my electronic logbook) but it will probably be a lot nicer/easier if you have everything in your electronic logbook, if not the totals and everything else will really never match up....of course you could create one big generic entry, but when it comes to finding out how many hours you have in CRJ-200 vs the 900 at night, it would be pretty hard to figure out unless it was all in the electronic logbook piece by piece!

Don't forget there are electronic logbook services online that you can send in a photocopy of your logbook pages and they will literally create each entry for you one by one including comments and email you back the file to import your logbook
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Yea it would definitely make things easier. I have some scribbles in my logbook and electronic would definitely clean it up and make it look more presentable at the next interview.
 
JustinD said:
I've flown with a lot of first officers, and captains before i upgraded and other people who also have that same predicament, so far into it, just want to wait until the upgrade or some other milestone and start from that point on, but i would still recommend doing it now!

I started an electronic logbook before I went to the airlines which made it much easier, and yes its very tedious to get all the previous hours in (i went back and did all 800 hours I already had before i started my electronic logbook) but it will probably be a lot nicer/easier if you have everything in your electronic logbook, if not the totals and everything else will really never match up....of course you could create one big generic entry, but when it comes to finding out how many hours you have in CRJ-200 vs the 900 at night, it would be pretty hard to figure out unless it was all in the electronic logbook piece by piece!

Don't forget there are electronic logbook services online that you can send in a photocopy of your logbook pages and they will literally create each entry for you one by one including comments and email you back the file to import your logbook
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That costs money.
Just keep the old and start an electronic. It's not that hard.
 
jordane93 said:
Yea it would definitely make things easier. I have some scribbles in my logbook and electronic would definitely clean it up and make it look more presentable at the next interview.
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It's not just about looking presentable - when some airline's app wants you to list how many night landings (for example) you have in each type of aircraft, it's VERY nice to be able to figure that out with just a couple of clicks. :)
 
kayoh190 said:
It's not just about looking presentable - when some airline's app wants you to list how many night landings (for example) you have in each type of aircraft, it's VERY nice to be able to figure that out with just a couple of clicks. :)
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It was brutal filling the app out for the regionals I applied to and I didn't even have a lot of time! I'm sure the majors and legacies will want to know a little more.
 
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The chances of me ever working for a major airline are slim to none. Best case scenario, in a few years I'll be flying some well off folks in leers or citations occasionally as a fill in or last minute pilot. I like the e-logs...but id just prefer to keep all my training and personal flying hand written. Maybe I'll copy them over to an elog a couple times a year. Thanks for the replies. I found a book binder locally. Im gonna print one up. Im looking forward to taking my son and daughter flying and maybe oneday they'll read through it and have some good memories.
 
JC565 said:
The chances of me ever working for a major airline are slim to none. Best case scenario, in a few years I'll be flying some well off folks in leers or citations occasionally as a fill in or last minute pilot. I like the e-logs...but id just prefer to keep all my training and personal flying hand written. Maybe I'll copy them over to an elog a couple times a year. Thanks for the replies. I found a book binder locally. Im gonna print one up. Im looking forward to taking my son and daughter flying and maybe oneday they'll read through it and have some good memories.
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Good.... because if you were applying to the airlines you will go waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy beyond a CPL. You will need an ATP which dwarfs the CPL time in the logbook.
 
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