Reporting low altitude aircraft?

Yes I am serious. What you described sounds to me to be very ambiguous. The fact that you are so obsessed over it leads me to believe you are just out to make trouble.

Like many pilots, I recognize what a crop duster is and where it spends most of its flight time. The aircraft was not a crop duster. Nor was it a power line or pipeline aircraft. It was not doing anything over the city that would be considered anything other than maneuvering recklessly.

Obsessed? Pardon me, I didn't create the thread asking anything other than how to report such offenses. :confused: It became what it is now because of other people becoming upset at me for reporting aircraft who should not be under FAR's over a city.

Do you have anything to contribute now that I've cleared that up that misunderstanding?
 
It was not doing anything over the city that would be considered anything other than maneuvering recklessly.
where did you order your judge and jury badge? I'd like to have one of those the next time one my kids says "you're not the boss of me"
 
Post the video tattle-boy. What kind of plane was it again?
 
where did you order your judge and jury badge? I'd like to have one of those the next time one my kids says "you're not the boss of me"

What do you want me to call it when I see an aircraft flying low over a city? Dangerous, reckless, under minimum altitudes...I don't know, these are all pretty simple descriptions of what an aircraft was doing, commonly used in the aviation industry.

I technically "judged" the distance above ground he was and "judged" his position over the city and the airport. I am by no means the "jury" - that's where the FSDO comes in.

Also, if I didn't provide enough detail for you to know the aircraft type, don't you think it's kind of silly to post sarcastically about being a crop duster pilot and killing millions of living things on the ground? :dunno:
 
Wow overdrive. You really need to learn to lighten up a bit. You are going to end up being a cranky old fart by the time you turn 30!
 
Note to self:

Never ask how to report a violation on POA.

I'll bet if the act were being done by a partner or a renter in their privately owned aircraft, the scofflaw's would be singing an entirely different tune OP ....
 
Wow overdrive. You really need to learn to lighten up a bit. You are going to end up being a cranky old fart by the time you turn 30!
Ask the guy who called me a douche, he's 32 and has over 16,000 posts on here :rofl: the epitome of maturity. I've been pretty calm and mature with the whole thread considering all of the people throwing tantrums. At least in my opinion - which if this thread is any example, is always wrong according to the 'vast majority of pilots' who don't follow the rules and regs. :rolleyes2:

Note to self:

Never ask how to report a violation on POA.

I'll bet if the act were being done by a partner or a renter in their privately owned aircraft, the scofflaw's would be singing an entirely different tune OP ....
I agree. Also, that's a very nice word to describe a lot of people in this thread, do you mind if I use that one for myself later? :lol:
 
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When I was working as an Inspector if someone called in a low flying airplane I would have them describe the area, what kind of airplane and possible registration number.

Then I would ask them to identify themselves, address, phone number and pilot license number if applicable and if they would give me a written report.

Ususally I would get "Hey, I don't want to go on record, can I just report this anonymously?" To which I replied "No, in order for me to investigate I need a full report".

Usually the caller would hang up.

Another tidbit learned being an Inspector. 95% of all reports of pilot deviations (low flying, etc) are called in by fellow pilots, usually someone the other pilot knows.
 
Not just pilots, I'm guessing. I've called in a noise complaint twice in my life. Both times, the person on the other end was amazed I was willing to give name, address, phone number and be willing to talk to the officer when he arrived.

(In one notable case, we tried to talk and the band practicing in the garage next door was too loud. I managed to shout "This is excessive, right?" and the cop just smiled.)
 
When I was working as an Inspector if someone called in a low flying airplane I would have them describe the area, what kind of airplane and possible registration number.

Then I would ask them to identify themselves, address, phone number and pilot license number if applicable and if they would give me a written report.

Ususally I would get "Hey, I don't want to go on record, can I just report this anonymously?" To which I replied "No, in order for me to investigate I need a full report".

Usually the caller would hang up.

Another tidbit learned being an Inspector. 95% of all reports of pilot deviations (low flying, etc) are called in by fellow pilots, usually someone the other pilot knows.

I was actually hoping you'd join the thread - probably one of the few here who has actually had inspector experience (instead of just making unfounded claims about how they're out to get every pilot and other claims like that made in the thread thus far).

I don't mind giving my name and address other details in this situation - I don't know the pilot. Interesting that people just hang up instead of going through with whatever they were going to report.

Maintaining friendships and appearances > preventing accidents, I guess.

Not just pilots, I'm guessing. I've called in a noise complaint twice in my life. Both times, the person on the other end was amazed I was willing to give name, address, phone number and be willing to talk to the officer when he arrived.

(In one notable case, we tried to talk and the band practicing in the garage next door was too loud. I managed to shout "This is excessive, right?" and the cop just smiled.)
:lol:
 
Ask the guy who called me a douche, he's 32 and has over 16,000 posts on here :rofl: the epitome of maturity. I've been pretty calm and mature with the whole thread considering all of the people throwing tantrums. At least in my opinion - which if this thread is any example, is always wrong according to the 'vast majority of pilots' who don't follow the rules and regs. :rolleyes2:


I agree. Also, that's a very nice word to describe a lot of people in this thread, do you mind if I use that one for myself later? :lol:



Use it at your own risk. :redface:

This has been an eye opener for me.

What I'm curious about is, what's the margin for the guys who are appalled that you would want to bring attention to this? 450AGL? 200? 100? At what point are you justified saying anything? Never? ..... :dunno:
 
Use it at your own risk. :redface:

This has been an eye opener for me.

What I'm curious about is, what's the margin for the guys who are appalled that you would want to bring attention to this? 450AGL? 200? 100? At what point are you justified saying anything? Never? ..... :dunno:
If he would post the video we could tell you whether or not it is justified. Without the video it is just a jealous, entitled kid causing some innocent pilot trouble.
 
If he would post the video we could tell you whether or not it is justified. Without the video it is just a jealous, entitled kid causing some innocent pilot trouble.

I'm not the one acting like I'm "entitled" to seeing the video in the first place. :rolleyes2: it's unwise to throw stones in glass houses you know.

Since you continue to question on what grounds I think that the pilot was in the wrong, how about you explain just where you got "jealous" and "entitled" from? And of course, you wouldn't need to tell me to post the video if you knew the "innocent" pilot and his plane. :dunno:
 
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If you have a FASST safety representative in your local pilot community goto him/her first. If not call the FSDO and get the FASST team inspector on the phone. If the pilot in question is not a reckless "the rules don't apply to me" type of person it will most likely turn into a valuable learning experience. If the attitude is in the wrong place then it might turn into something else entirely.

There was one time in my career i was tempted to say or do something about a pilot at my local airport that seemed to be unsafe in some of their practices. I didn't and he ended up dead doing something incredibly stupid. Have always regretted not being more proactive in that situation.

Do what you think is right but don't just be a tattle tail. Be part of the solution to fix the problem if it truly does exist.
 
If you have a FASST safety representative in your local pilot community goto him/her first. If not call the FSDO and get the FASST team inspector on the phone. If the pilot in question is not a reckless "the rules don't apply to me" type of person it will most likely turn into a valuable learning experience. If the attitude is in the wrong place then it might turn into something else entirely.

There was one time in my career i was tempted to say or do something about a pilot at my local airport that seemed to be unsafe in some of their practices. I didn't and he ended up dead doing something incredibly stupid. Have always regretted not being more proactive in that situation.

Do what you think is right but don't just be a tattle tail. Be part of the solution to fix the problem if it truly does exist.
Thank you for the advice, and for the example of why to report things proactively instead of letting someone else worry about it.

Unfortunately, Fast Eddie B posted a newspaper article describing an accident from a while back with more or less the same circumstances, except the pilot took a teenager with him when he went down. Also unfortunately, even that logic completely escaped a lot of the people here who believe that it's none of my business and that safety is something they are not responsible for. :dunno:

Also, at the risk of repeating ad nauseum at this point, the pilot was flying in a reckless and unsafe manner over a populated area, including over a university and some pretty dense housing. If my opinion is worth anything, (depends on the person in the thread and their level of ignorance), I believe that reporting this pilot is necessary for safety's sake - it was not a marginal sort of violation.
 
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Here's what I see. A recent college grad who's got the world figured out. Don't take it personally, because this isn't unique to you, but you really don't know **** from shinola. That's just reality, and the sooner you accept it, the sooner you'll get past it.

It's seems to me that you came here for an attaboy, not information on how to report violations (surely that was covered in one of your aviation-safety classes), and I'm sorry you didn't get it. But my suggestion to you is to forget this thread, forget this pilot, hell, forget PoA, and find a mentor. There's got to be someone at your airport or your school who's the kind of pilot/aviation professional you want to grow up to be. Ask that person if he/she will be your mentor. Your life guide. Your role model. You need folks IRL you can watch, study, model, and ask questions of. If you can find someone IRL who's the kind of person you want to become, he's the only one who can help you get there. Who cares what a bunch on folks on the Internet think?

If you don't mind me asking, what don't I have "figured out" and what exactly is a shinola? I'm not exactly showing that I "know everything", I thought that was obvious by all of my posts in the thread. You know, debating with those who have opposing viewpoints. Maybe I haven't actually ever reported anyone and was asking for imformation's sake.
Primarily what most young grads lack is judgment. What Kenny Rogers would call "when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em." Your "debating" in this thread demonstrates, not a willingness to learn or expand your horizons, but rather a certainty that your level of experience does not warrant. See, you might very well be right (and I haven't said whether I agree with you), but you lack the experience to know that you're right. Unfortunately, you also lack the judgment to recognize that.

I didn't come here for an "attaboy", If you read the OP at all you'd see I didn't have any kind of intention of arguing with people whether to report or not.
Really? You got through an aviation bachelor's program with a minor in aviation safety without learning the functions of a FSDO? And the airport manager couldn't help you out with this? Like she doesn't have an ongoing relationship with someone at your local FSDO she could put you in touch with? Not believable.

What's believable is that you came here to commiserate about a pilot who, IYO, is one of those rat bastards who makes us all look bad, and you were surprised at the reaction. So you got defensive and the reaction got harsher. So you added "facts," which made those attacking you further question your credibility and intensified their reaction. Rinse, repeat.

Also, try assuming that you didn't know I was a fresh college graduate or a pilot with 95 hours. Instead act like I was some regular old joe, what would you say then?
I would wonder why you were acting like you are acting.
Or god forbid, if I was one of the older guys in the thread who agree and share my views on safety, what would you say then? :dunno: I don't think that telling me (as a fresh college graduate) that I don't know anything is pretty ignorant.
I assume the double negative is unintentional. But here's the thing. As a fresh college graduate, what you have is book knowledge. What you lack is experience (and the judgment that comes with it). Both are important. Someday, I expect you'll find a nice balance of both.

People can graduate from college at 15 or 50 or 80.
Yep. And usually the older graduates already have the judgment to know what they don't know and the STFU about what they think they do know. I spend a bit of time around recent grads at work. I even interview them for jobs. Telling you that you're like the vast majority of your peers is not meant to be harsh. It's just reality. I made a suggestion regarding how you can benefit from maturity beyond your own age and experience and you took it as an insult. You've made up your mind on a course of action here, and you should follow through. I hope it will be a positive learning experience for you.
 
Yeah, obviously the aircraft I was talking about flying over a city was a crop duster :rolleyes2:

Come on, you can't be serious. For some reason, it's impossible to believe that I would be capable of recognizing a dangerous situation in which there is something reckless going on in a plane that's not supposed to be so low over a congested area. :dunno:

You must be uncertain, as you said you were reluctant to post the video.

If you were certain, you would post the video and quiet the peanut gallery.
 
Lame

This is right next to that old lady who calls the cops when she hears anything (music, car, talking).

I'd just let it be, or if you want to be a man about it run the N number and send him a letter with a picture of his plane doing that, or do a spokeo search for his phone number based off address. Guessing he won't come around anymore.

This is the better answer, send him a friendly anonymous letter with the photo, indicating the next person may not be so generous as to not report him, or that he probably doesn't want photos on the front page of the local newspaper either.

Careful what you report the FAA, they have a habit of investigating the person reporting almost as much as they will investigate the person being reported.

Brian

PS. and if he doesn't happen to be the owner of the airplane, which is who you will send the letter to based on the registration information, then he will probably be in plenty of hot water with the owner.
 
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Careful what you report the FAA, they have a habit of investigating the person reporting almost as much as they will investigate the person being reported.

Brian

OWT.

What the FAA will do is request the reporter give identification of himself/herself and also provide a written statement. Gone are the days that someone can drop an anonymous complaint then run and watch from the sidelines. If it is discovered the reporter fabricated events in the report, then that is fraud and will be dealt with accordingly.
 
We all need to make sure we police our neighbors for only we know what is right and wrong. Its for the safety of the kids.

Also remember to report that pilot who goes out before sunrise and pre-flights his airplane for we all know he is running drugs.

We must all remember, no one is doing anything legal anymore. Everyone is a criminal and out to hurt or kill you.

Do you need the number to 911. I will give it to you.

Tony
 
Also the OP post that the airplane was at 500'. I bet this person does not even need an altimeter in his airplane for he knows altitude just by looking with +-50 feet.

I had a person tell me, you where out flying circles over that house and points to a house. I said no. I was about a 1/2 mile on the other side flying around a point. But from this person perspective it looked like I was above that house. But I was not.

Be careful what you accuse for someday it could be you being accused by MR Joe Public playing COP.

Its crazy how Karma works.....

Tony
 
OWT.

What the FAA will do is request the reporter give identification of himself/herself and also provide a written statement. Gone are the days that someone can drop an anonymous complaint then run and watch from the sidelines. If it is discovered the reporter fabricated events in the report, then that is fraud and will be dealt with accordingly.[/QUOTE]

I'm calling BS on that statement. I've been on the receiving end of investigations where the snitch fabricated most of the "violation". It was dropped and NOTHING was done to the liar.

What you think happens, and what actually happens are two different things.
 
OWT.

What the FAA will do is request the reporter give identification of himself/herself and also provide a written statement. Gone are the days that someone can drop an anonymous complaint then run and watch from the sidelines. If it is discovered the reporter fabricated events in the report, then that is fraud and will be dealt with accordingly.[/QUOTE]

I'm calling BS on that statement. I've been on the receiving end of investigations where the snitch fabricated most of the "violation". It was dropped and NOTHING was done to the liar.

What you think happens, and what actually happens are two different things.


Post it here and let's see.
 
When you say low pass over the field was he aligned with the runway? I would rather see someone low passing an airport than their buddies house. "Climbing out" from an airport even if it is slowly over a town is not really a crime.

MYOB would be my call on this one.
 
I don't think I would go out of my way to report this. If I lived in a place where my airport is under constant scrutiny by locals, and in danger of being shut down, I might... Because I don't need some idiot that wants to chance his life ruining my fun!

I think that if it is like you described then the guy is not following his training and disregarding safety. That said I don't think you should be so quick to call foul.

I also think that the people on this thread talking down to you and being rude about it are very much in the wrong. If you want to report something then go ahead, only you know the severity of the issue. The people here are acting like little kids who don't want to be tattled on, which makes you wonder why...

Look, we are pilots and with that we have a responsibility to be safe and professional. That doesn't mean we can't have fun. With that comes the fact that regulations govern us. All of you can say that you may or may not report it, but discouraging someone else is ridiculous and childish. If you have an opinion that you don't want to report him that's fine, but you're all treating this like the rules don't apply to you. If you don't care about one, not so important rule, how far does that go? I wouldn't fly with anyone that has such an open disregard for the rules. Yes, I wouldn't report him, but I believe the OP can do what he deems fit and I recognize that a rule is a rule. I would not violate any and I would never operate illegally.

Everyone who has rudely and aggressively harassed the OP should be ashamed. You are entitled to your opinion. You don't want to report him, fine. Here's the truth, not matter how much you believe you are somehow better than everyone by ignoring a violation, you are wrong because a rule is a rule and there is no way around it. You don't have to report it but don't openly attack the regulations or someone that decided they want to more actively persue them... Anyone who thinks they are above the law is dangerous. We don't need people violating eachother and we don't need people dying. Let's pick a middle ground.

I still think reporting them after one instance is a bit harsh. But I admire your sense of doing right by yourself.

I will also say this, I know you're from ERAU. Not saying anything bad about that, I'm from FIT. But I will tell you that I did some of my training in the "real world", part 61 in a regular school. Only some of it I did with FIT. I can tell you that the perfect world you live in at a College part 141 flight school doesn't exist. You can come out of there thinking you can go and use your knowledge to try and change how everyone works. It's a noble cause but it is an unlikely one. I love that fact that I live and work in both environments. There is a real world and there is a correct world. Unfortunate but true. I tend to operate more in the real world!

Also, those of you who think age matters, you can ignore this because I'm 19.
 
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But I admire your sense of doing right by yourself.

This.

A well known insect said it best...

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When you say low pass over the field was he aligned with the runway? I would rather see someone low passing an airport than their buddies house. "Climbing out" from an airport even if it is slowly over a town is not really a crime.

MYOB would be my call on this one.

No was not aligned with runway, In any way. then after his little fun decides to just make a left base right at the threshold and land which is RP only for that runway
:confused:
 
Interesting post. Being as thought the OP is in my home state, I felt obliged to join the forums (have been a lurker for a while) in order to post some thoughts.

First, on the subject of Overdrive's age: I doubt that most of the comments regarding your age are specifically targeted at you necessarily because you are young. However, the tone and writing style certainly caused me to picture a younger pilot who was taking it upon himself to "save the world". Your age and number of flight hours do not necessarily dictate that you are immature, but please keep in mind that a TON of wisdom is gained from simply living life and observing the wide range of experiences out there. More specifically, you seem to believe that the offending pilot was operating dangerously and recklessly by flying 500-600ft AGL. You mentioned a lot of "what-ifs" about hitting a college tower, etc., which at your age (I'm not much older) I might have also been concerned about. However, after having been around more and more flying (less TT than you) I find that the activities aren't nearly as dangerous or risky as they originally appeared, and the probability of a fatal accident was still incredibly small. Flying 500' AGL isn't something I typically make a habit of, but I'm not about to contact the FAA because someone made a few low passes. If he was doing aerobatics or truly "buzzing" people, I'd be more inclined to agree, but it doesn't sound as though it was anywhere near that extreme.

Second, I do find your convictions to be in the right place, however your reluctance to talk to the gentleman flying the aircraft to be disheartening. You state (in a roundabout way) that it's our responsibility as airmen to report these possible breaches in FAA regs in the name of "safety". Obviously no one here would want to have it on their conscience if that pilot was later in an accident where he was killed or killed others, pax or on the ground. However, you are willing to go the distance to file the report, submit the video, and respond to additional FAA queries/possibly chastisement from fellow pilots . . . yet unable to simply pick up a telephone or send a letter/pic to the owner of the aircraft found in the registration database? If you efforts to curtail the situation verbally were rejected, and the pilot continues to make himself a nuisance, by all means go ahead and sic the dogs on him. If your neighbor doesn't know that his stereo is causing you annoyance, why not just talk to him instead of calling the police first? It's not about being a tattle-tale, it's more about trying to be civil to one another, especially to a member of a pretty elite membership like pilots are.

Finally, on the subject of choosing which regs to obey and which are bendable . . . it's not your job to make that delineation. I look at it similar to seeing someone on the highway speeding where there's a humorous saying, "Anyone driving slower than me is crazy, and anyone driving faster than me is insane!" My point being, it's often very difficult to draw the line at what should be reported and what shouldn't. I'm not calling the cops on some guy for driving 80mph in a 65mph zone just the same as I wouldn't report a guy for flying 300' under a cloud while flying VFR (assuming I could definitively prove he was doing so).

As was mentioned by several others, you're free to do whatever helps you sleep at night, but I'd recommend trying to help gain a friend through helpful discourse (the offending pilot) rather than surely making an enemy of him by calling the FAA. The downside to calling the FAA every time you see a reg busted is that you will have to do EVERY time you see one busted (or else your logic won't hold up) because no regs are ever to be busted without repercussion from the FAA. Another ugly caveat from that style of "enforcement" is that it can (and has) led to more and more FAR's time and time again. Legislating everything out of aviation would soon be so burdensome as to make the activity too unattractive for most.

The purpose of my post is not to call your age/flight time/knowledge/convictions into question, merely to present my outside viewpoint and hope that you'll keep an open mind in how you proceed with your actions.
 
Interesting post. Being as thought the OP is in my home state, I felt obliged to join the forums (have been a lurker for a while) in order to post some thoughts.

First, on the subject of Overdrive's age: I doubt that most of the comments regarding your age are specifically targeted at you necessarily because you are young. However, the tone and writing style certainly caused me to picture a younger pilot who was taking it upon himself to "save the world". Your age and number of flight hours do not necessarily dictate that you are immature, but please keep in mind that a TON of wisdom is gained from simply living life and observing the wide range of experiences out there. More specifically, you seem to believe that the offending pilot was operating dangerously and recklessly by flying 500-600ft AGL. You mentioned a lot of "what-ifs" about hitting a college tower, etc., which at your age (I'm not much older) I might have also been concerned about. However, after having been around more and more flying (less TT than you) I find that the activities aren't nearly as dangerous or risky as they originally appeared, and the probability of a fatal accident was still incredibly small. Flying 500' AGL isn't something I typically make a habit of, but I'm not about to contact the FAA because someone made a few low passes. If he was doing aerobatics or truly "buzzing" people, I'd be more inclined to agree, but it doesn't sound as though it was anywhere near that extreme.

Second, I do find your convictions to be in the right place, however your reluctance to talk to the gentleman flying the aircraft to be disheartening. You state (in a roundabout way) that it's our responsibility as airmen to report these possible breaches in FAA regs in the name of "safety". Obviously no one here would want to have it on their conscience if that pilot was later in an accident where he was killed or killed others, pax or on the ground. However, you are willing to go the distance to file the report, submit the video, and respond to additional FAA queries/possibly chastisement from fellow pilots . . . yet unable to simply pick up a telephone or send a letter/pic to the owner of the aircraft found in the registration database? If you efforts to curtail the situation verbally were rejected, and the pilot continues to make himself a nuisance, by all means go ahead and sic the dogs on him. If your neighbor doesn't know that his stereo is causing you annoyance, why not just talk to him instead of calling the police first? It's not about being a tattle-tale, it's more about trying to be civil to one another, especially to a member of a pretty elite membership like pilots are.

Finally, on the subject of choosing which regs to obey and which are bendable . . . it's not your job to make that delineation. I look at it similar to seeing someone on the highway speeding where there's a humorous saying, "Anyone driving slower than me is crazy, and anyone driving faster than me is insane!" My point being, it's often very difficult to draw the line at what should be reported and what shouldn't. I'm not calling the cops on some guy for driving 80mph in a 65mph zone just the same as I wouldn't report a guy for flying 300' under a cloud while flying VFR (assuming I could definitively prove he was doing so).

As was mentioned by several others, you're free to do whatever helps you sleep at night, but I'd recommend trying to help gain a friend through helpful discourse (the offending pilot) rather than surely making an enemy of him by calling the FAA. The downside to calling the FAA every time you see a reg busted is that you will have to do EVERY time you see one busted (or else your logic won't hold up) because no regs are ever to be busted without repercussion from the FAA. Another ugly caveat from that style of "enforcement" is that it can (and has) led to more and more FAR's time and time again. Legislating everything out of aviation would soon be so burdensome as to make the activity too unattractive for most.

The purpose of my post is not to call your age/flight time/knowledge/convictions into question, merely to present my outside viewpoint and hope that you'll keep an open mind in how you proceed with your actions.

I think you need to post more often!

Welcome aboard!
 
Sooneraviator- My thoughts precisely, except certainly put more eloquently. Welcome.
 
Long gone are the days a buddy used to fly a corsair in the reserves out of willow grove. He would buzz so low that dishes in the china cabinet vibrated and then would buzz his office. How I miss that occasional roaring buzz job! No one would have even considered Turning him in. Not to mention a recently passed pilot who used to buzz the local field in an arrow star before landing easily in 2100 feet. In this case immaturity may be raising its head. He seems determined to play cop. So be it.
 
Long gone are the days a buddy used to fly a corsair in the reserves out of willow grove. He would buzz so low that dishes in the china cabinet vibrated and then would buzz his office. How I miss that occasional roaring buzz job! No one would have even considered Turning him in. Not to mention a recently passed pilot who used to buzz the local field in an arrow star before landing easily in 2100 feet. In this case immaturity may be raising its head. He seems determined to play cop. So be it.

Sounds awesome. I can't believe how many noise complaints we get for flying 500 ft AGL enroute back home from the training area. Not at 2am either, I'm talking about the middle of the day. Don't the American citizens know the sound of freedom?

ps - OP, I'm talking about flying a helicopter, so don't go run to the FSDO and report me for flying 500 AGL.
 
OWT.

What the FAA will do is request the reporter give identification of himself/herself and also provide a written statement. Gone are the days that someone can drop an anonymous complaint then run and watch from the sidelines. If it is discovered the reporter fabricated events in the report, then that is fraud and will be dealt with accordingly.

I personally knew a Mechanic that reported another shop for illegal repairs and they did indeed investigate both shops.

Brian
 
As of August 1st wasting water in California will be in the regs too.

My take on it is if the pilot in question is actually posing a hazard, well then okay. Going after him simply because he wasn't technically in compliance with the regs sounds kind of lame to me. In your original post, you painted the situation as if he was just doing some low passes over an empty field. Crop dusters routinely come close to building structures, probably also in technical non-compliance of the regs.

Crop dusters operate under Pt 137, not 91. Read Pt 137 and you will see that they are in full compliance with the regs in those regards.
 
I personally knew a Mechanic that reported another shop for illegal repairs and they did indeed investigate both shops.

Brian

I would imagine so. Here's the scenario, FAA turns up at the shop with a complaint, "Oh yeah? I bet I know where you heard that. Illegal my ass, that repair was fine, he was just trying to run me down and gouge that guy to straighten it out."

That is why people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
 
Crop dusters operate under Pt 137, not 91. Read Pt 137 and you will see that they are in full compliance with the regs in those regards.
now you've done it. Just wait till one of the do-gooders takes a read and sees folks can set their own gross weight.
 
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