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Not an A&P and not an owner (yet), and really don't know much about the required maintenance "rules" after an incident/accident.
My question is, if you have a prop strike, must you ALWAYS tear the engine down for inspection afterwards, or are there different answers for part 91 vs. 135 etc..?

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Mark B
 
lycomings have an AD that essentially requires an engine teardown after a propstrike.

technically, I believe, there is not a requirement for continentals. but it would be a good idea.
 
I believe the FAA now mandates a teardown (as of 2005) no matter who's engine is involved...
And the term "propstrike" now includes any impact that may damaged the spinner, prop ect. even if the engine in question isn't powered at the time.

A local had an Archer 4 that got rammed by another aircraft while tied down. It got hit on the spinner/prop (entire aircraft moved sideways 3 feet or so...) and the prop and engine were both torn down.
Crank runout was way outside and so the Archer owner got a engine re-build and prop OH on someone else's Dime...

I'm not an A&P nor can I Cut & Paste FAR"S from memory but I do believe I think I know I'm pretty sure I read this somewhere...


Chris
 
There's actually no FARs on the subject, as far as I know. Its all mandated by AD's. Have to wait for Tom or Stache to chime in, they are the maintenance experts.
 
There's actually no FARs on the subject, as far as I know. Its all mandated by AD's. Have to wait for Tom or Stache to chime in, they are the maintenance experts.
You man that you're not an expert after your experiences?! :):goofy:
 
ha grant. That is how I know there is an AD for Lycomings :D

It seems that when there was that incident with the 210 in California earlier this year, it was mentioned that there is not a teardown requirement for Continentals. This was when the guy walked into prop, got killed, then airplane had an engine failure on takeoff 4 hrs later.
 
ha grant. That is how I know there is an AD for Lycomings :D

It seems that when there was that incident with the 210 in California earlier this year, it was mentioned that there is not a teardown requirement for Continentals. This was when the guy walked into prop, got killed, then airplane had an engine failure on takeoff 4 hrs later.
Ow! I'd want the prop replaced, at least, just to avoid the bad Karma!
 
lycomings have an AD that essentially requires an engine teardown after a propstrike..

Not true, Lycoming has an AD to comply with, The AD includes an inspection of the crank gear drive pin. THAT IS ALL the AD says. no complete tear down is required.

technically, I believe, there is not a requirement for continentals. but it would be a good idea.

Continental has a SB (not required by part 91) to be complied with, and Yes, it is a complete tear down and inspect all rotating components of the crank assembly.

I would do the whole remanufacture of the engine, If I had to do anything on my aircraft, both brands. Yes even my warner would get totally torn down and inspected at the time the insurance company would pay for it.
 
The deffination of a prop strike is different on Lycomings than Continentals, Lycoming says any time a prop strikes any thing that will cause a loss of RPM it is a prop strike.

Continental says any time a prop must be removed for repair, it's considered a prop strike.
 
For the record, AD's are "regulatory," that is, they have the same force of law as a regulation. As for teardown versus the crank gear drive pin inspection versus just looking things over with a Lycoming, read the AD, which includes Lycoming's definition of a "prop strike," which may not include everything someone else defines as a "prop strike," and may include things others don't define as a "prop strike." Note that if there's no discernable change in RPM and no prop damage, the requirements are a lot less.
 
I can't remeber where I found the below artice, but it is very good and explain prop strikes.

A prop strike is? Is it a sudden engine stoppage regardless of the cause? Is it an occasion when a prop blade strikes a foreign object and the engine continues to run? Is it hitting a rock or other loose object with a prop blade while operating on a runway or taxiway? Is it when something or someone impacts a prop blade when the engine isn't running?

The only pertinent F.A.A. definition that I have been able to find is in Advisory Circular 43.13-1B. It defines a sudden engine stoppage as; stopping an engine in one revolution or less for any reason, be it from propeller impact or from an engine failure of some sort. Both major engine manufacturer's have service literature that explains the desired course of action after accidental propeller damage and, in the case of Teledyne Continental, defines what their interpretation of a propeller strike is.

T.C.M.'s Service Bulletin 96-11, in a nutshell, says that if a propeller must be removed from the aircraft to be repaired following a propeller blade impact of any sort or if the engine physically lost R.P.M.'s from the incident, then the engine has experienced a propeller strike and it should be removed from service and completely disassembled and thoroughly inspected for damage from the incident.

Textron Lycoming, in their Service Bulletin 533, takes the approach that the safest procedure is to take the engine apart for inspection following any incident involving propeller blade damage. However, they have the caveat that the inspecting mechanic may override that position and return the engine to service without disassembly and inspection if he feels that it is the prudent and responsible thing to do.

Textron Lycoming has also published Service Bulletin 475B which requires, in the event that the engine has experienced a propeller strike, inspection and possible rework of the accessory gear train as well as the rear of the engine's crankshaft. Compliance with this service bulletin is mandatory in the eyes of the F.A.A. by A.D. note 91-14-22, if and only if, the engine has experienced a sudden engine stoppage not a propeller strike. It should be noted that to comply with A.D. note 91-14-22, the engine does not need to be completely disassembled and that access to the accessory gear train can be accomplished, in most cases, with the engine still installed in the aircraft.

What this all boils down to is that in the case of any accidental damage to a propeller installed on a aircraft operating under Part 91 of the F.A.R.'s, it is up to the inspecting technician to determine if the engine should continue in service without total disassembly and inspection. A Textron Lycoming engine, that is being operated on a Part 91 aircraft, that had a sudden engine stoppage, not a propeller strike, must comply with A.D. note 91-14-22 and Service Bulletin 475B at a minimum.
 
I believe the FAA now mandates a teardown (as of 2005) no matter who's engine is involved...

I hope they don't, because Theilert's diesels have a mechanism to break the prop and the engine free from each other in the event of a strike to save the engine. It would suck if you had to tear it all the way down anyway!
 
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