Plane lands in NYC

Wait... why aren't its gear down?
 
Three people passengers,glad everyone is ok.
 
That went pretty well, considering... pretty sure the PIC would have had to go under an overpass to pull that off. With weekday rush hour traffic on that stretch of road, it would have been a disaster.
Maybe they left the gear up to make sure it stopped before the next onramp...:D
 
Wait... why aren't its gear down?

Never mind, answered my own question by looking at the other thread.

This looks like an Archer, and the gear collapsed on landing. OUCH!
 
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http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/bronx/small-plane-emergency-landing-major-deegan-expressway-article-1.1566379
 
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They're calling it a miracle?
 
Wow, glad that worked out ok!

My wife used to live right over there, on the Mosholu Parkway. Small world.
 

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In the Landings.com database, it shows he is a student pilot as of April 2013. I don't know when their info was last updated. The plane was registered to him as of June 2013.
Maybe he wasn't the PIC or he let a friend borrow the plane and wasn't in it.
 
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Being it was a Saturday, maybe that helped him in traffic, but that area is usually pretty bust any day.
 
Prop doesn't look bent so must not have been spinning when nose gear collapsed.
 
Oh oh, I really hope it wasn't an illegal student pilot flight.

Wait a second!
A 50-year-old man and two women, aged 43 and 20, emerged from the fixed-wing Piper PA28 Cherokee that lost power
Could it be that Bob the Pilot couldn't handle the unruly passengers this time? :yikes:
 
Oh oh, I really hope it wasn't an illegal student pilot flight.

Wait a second!

Could it be that Bob the Pilot couldn't handle the unruly passengers this time? :yikes:

:rofl:
 
On the DEEGAN!?! Very lucky to not get creamed by a car or 18-wheeler.

I notice the tires and wheels are intact - he's far enough north that it was stripped in minutes.... :rofl:
 
The landing was probably perfect, the pot holes ripped off the landing gear.
 
Hope he got his PPL already, because he had passengers.

Could be the FAA backlog due to the shutdown. They were down 2 weeks and got 2 months behind. :) I passed my commercial checkride in September and only got my license a few days ago -- just a couple days left on the 120 temp certificate.
 
But did the FAA Airmen database take that long to update too?
I would think the system would get updated in a couple of days at most, even though they don't send the card for a while.

Could be he just got his certificate, in which case more kudos to him for the landing.
 
But did the FAA Airmen database take that long to update too?

I would think the system would get updated in a couple of days at most, even though they don't send the card for a while.



Could be he just got his certificate, in which case more kudos to him for the landing.


The FAA database updated only within a couple of days of getting the certificate - so the database too was lagging almost just as long as getting the certificate issued - Sept to December delay for me.


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But did the FAA Airmen database take that long to update too?
I would think the system would get updated in a couple of days at most, even though they don't send the card for a while.

Could be he just got his certificate, in which case more kudos to him for the landing.

The FAA database is not updated until the paperwork is processed. Even with the electronic 8710 it's taking 100 days+ to process. I tell my students, when you see it in the database, give it a week for the snail mail.
 
Being it was a Saturday, maybe that helped him in traffic, but that area is usually pretty bust any day.

NY Times reports that a pothole repair crew had blocked two of three lanes of traffic, fortuitously creating artificially light traffic for the pilot landing downstream from the trucks.

-Skip
 
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A lot of good luck involved here. I wonder what the bad luck was that made all the good luck so needed.
 
That's really funny becsuse today I'm sittin here saying wow how are all these people flying today what airports are they taking off from, none the less landing at. We just got hit with a big storm of snow and it's all ice now .. At least I know where they were landing today! Glad everyone was ok!
 
A lot of good luck involved here. I wonder what the bad luck was that made all the good luck so needed.

Will be interesting to see the what caused the bad luck. Seems like the odds-on favorite is fuel starvation. Amazing how many times that comes up browsing the NTSB database.
 
Great job by the pilot. Hope we can learn from this one.

Yep. Basically, when you are flying over hostile terrain in a single engine plane and the engine quits, luck really plays a big hand in your survival. Best to do whatever you can to ensure the motor keeps going and to avoid hostile terrain whenever possible.
 
Was this plane sold by Aircraft ownership solutions in Indiana?
 
I flew on Saturday in the NJ area two days after the storm with a CFI. The runway was clear, but had packed snow and some icy patches, but was passable. As long as you had a usable rumway the conditions in air were nearly perfect.
 
A lot of good luck involved here. I wonder what the bad luck was that made all the good luck so needed.

Here is some speculation posted to me by a member of our flying club. This doesn't mean the information is correct. So... continue with the speculations! -Skip

If you look up his tail number you find his plane is a 1966 Cherokee 180. Michael Schwartz of South Salem NY bought it last summer (July 2013). At the time it had 110 hours on a major overhaul done in 1992. Total time around 2500 hours. So the plane averaged <5 hrs a year for the last 21 years!!! The seller's ad listed an asking price of $26,900. Pictures of the panel at the time showed hopelessly outdated avionics but good paint and interior. I guess you get what you pay for. The seller included a handheld Nav radio in the purchase price because the avionics were so bad.

Of course we don't know what work he had done since the purchase, but the engine at least was an accident waiting to happen.
 
He might be in serious trouble......not with FAA, but his wife who wasn't one of the two women passengers.:no::hairraise:
 
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http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief.aspx?ev_id=20140105X41404&key=1
NTSB Identification: ERA14LA085
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Saturday, January 04, 2014 in Bronx, NY
Aircraft: PIPER PA-28-180, registration: N9409J
Injuries: 3 Uninjured.
This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed. NTSB investigators may not have traveled in support of this investigation and used data provided by various sources to prepare this aircraft accident report.​

On January 4, 2014, about 1520 eastern standard time, a Piper PA-28-180, N9409J, was substantially damaged during a forced landing on an expressway in Bronx, New York. The private pilot and two passengers were not injured. The airplane was registered to and operated by a private individual, under the provisions of 14 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Part 91, as a personal flight. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed at the time and no flight plan was filed; VFR flight following was obtained. The flight originated from Danbury Municipal Airport, Danbury, CT, about 1440.

The pilot stated that the flight departed with full fuel tanks and after takeoff proceeded to the Statue of Liberty which he orbited twice. He then climbed to 1,500 feet and while in contact with the FAA LaGuardia control tower, he noticed the engine was not developing power. Because he had switched fuel tanks 30 minutes into the flight while at the Statue of Liberty, he turned on the auxiliary fuel pump, and switched the fuel selector to the fuel tank selected for takeoff. He stated that he could not recall the tank selected for takeoff. In attempt to restore engine power he also richened the mixture, and pushed the throttle full in, but with no affect. He declared a mayday, established best glide airspeed, and was vectored to a nearby airport but realized he would be unable to land there. He observed an expressway with 2 closed lanes and maneuvered the airplane for landing. He did not make contact with any trees or light poles on approach to the expressway. In preparation for the forced landing he shut off the fuel and magnetos and "cracked the [cabin entry door]." After coming to rest, all occupants exited the airplane.
 
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