So you're just gong to ignore the opened danger window I described. REALLY GOOD, JAY.
Tell you what. Why don't you use physics, and get into the max efficient least death window config. (Vy or just below) and do exactly what you say- that's the MATHEMATICAL way, instead of disregarding it while saying "show me a mathematical way". Or you can just have fun and actually be more dangerous and more exposed with your fun ZOOMs.
Do Mary a favor, and fly conservatively, Jay. Don't be a tool. We like you and want you to survive.
Yeah, I'm feeling the love.
What makes you think that I won't fly conservatively? Because I actually went out and tested several different departure techniques?
I have learned many great things about my new aircraft since starting this thread:
1. I've learned, through actual flight testing, that a zoom climb is no safer than a Vy climb, nor does it get me to pattern altitude any quicker, even though it FEELS quicker.
2. I have determined through actual flight testing that a Vx departure climb in an -8 is uncomfortable to the point where we simply won't do them for anything short of necessity.
3. I have learned, through actual flight testing, that it takes one minute to get to pattern altitude in the -8, on a 90+ degree day at sea level, which frankly surprised me. Apparently the excitement of flying the plane results in perceived time compression, because I would have swore that it was about 30 seconds before actually timing it with a stopwatch.
With regard to POA, I have also learned many things:
1. I have learned that some of the posters here who know so much about aviation are incapable of imparting that wisdom to others without cruelty and sarcasm. As God's gift to aviation, they believe that subjecting oneself to their abuse is a fair trade in exchange for their knowledge.
2. I have learned (for the thousandth time) that arguing with trolls only makes them happier and more persistent. After 20+ years in piloting groups, you would think I would remember this -- but it's like tequila. Every year or two, I have tie one on to remind myself why NOT to drink it.
3. Most posters here are fun, intelligent, well spoken (or written), and are capable of interesting, often witty repartee. They are why I am here!
All in all, a productive thread, and a great bunch of flying. YMMV.