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Final Approach
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Rescue of Roger Locher
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Posted in reply to gkainz's post "Rescue of Roger Locher"
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Touchdown! Greaser!
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Re: Rescue of Roger Locher
OMG that brings back memories.....
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Filing Flight Plan
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I stumbled into the thread that featured Steve Ritchie's great description of the rescue of Roger Locher. That too brought back memories that go back to the Vietnam War. Steve and I went through the same training program for SEA bound F-4 pilots at Davis-Monthan AFB, Ariz in 1968. Steve was a guy in back (GI
as they were called then--fully qualified pilots but not quite qualified enough for front seat duty. Steve and I ferried an F-4 from Hill AFB all the way to Danang AB along with other F-4s escorted and refueled by KC 135s. I lost track of Steve until I returned to SEA as commander of the 56 Special Operations Wing at NKP Thailand. After he became ace Steve paid a visit to NKP giving the base some great high-speed low altitude passes that only an ace could get away with. NKP was active in the rescue of downed pilots housing both the famous Jolly Green squadron and an A1 Skyraider squadron whch participated in many amazing rescues during my time there. Steve was one of the most dynamic individuals I have ever been associated with and this was amply on display in the video. Nail 17 was my call sign as an OV-10 FAC at NKP in 1972-73.
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Touchdown! Greaser!
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Wow. Steve Ritchie is such a class act as is Roger Locher. Great story. Thanks for posting Greg.
To think many of these brave heroes were spit on and ridiculed when returning home makes me want to vomit.
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"Where people can be free to reach their full potential".
That was the last sentence in the Video. Kind of tough doing that these days, unless you can somehow make it through the gauntlet of innumerable laws and regulations that block your path to whatever it is your trying to reach. Not many can anymore. -John
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Posted in reply to Henning's post "Re: Rescue of Roger Locher"
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Footnote: On one occassion in 1972 Royal Laotian Army Gen Van Pao was invited to a party for the departing Hobo squadron commander Major Jim Harding but he was spared the initiation. However our ambassador to Laos, Godley and BG John Vessey were not. Last edited by Nail 17; July 17th, 2012 at 11:16 AM. |
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Posted in reply to gkainz's post "Rescue of Roger Locher"
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Filing Flight Plan
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but by the grace of God: there, go I. That's a FABULOUS Rotary Club presentation!!
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Filing Flight Plan
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We had a Commander in Chief who would fully support this action.
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sad that we don't even defend ambassadors anymore....
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Touchdown! Greaser!
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Anyone who donates enough money to the right campaign can be ambassador. It's not like they're much special.
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"How do you think? If a man has an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, does he not leave the ninety and nine and go into the mountains and seeks that which is gone astray? And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoices more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in Heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.
Matthew 18:12-14 Last edited by dpike; November 6th, 2012 at 10:26 AM. |
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I have just viewed the Rescue of Roger Locher. General Steve Ritchie, delivered the messages of we are Family, Patriotism, and anger at the
way the Vietnam Vets have been portrayed . Currently I'm working on a video that will be posted on Youtube and Military Sites. The video is about the Education Center that will be built adjacent to Vietnam Wall. The land was allocated by Congress and public funds will pay for the site. The Education Center is striving to have pictures and biographies of all heroes who are on the Wall. The video asks for people to send in scans of the Heroes on the Wall. If you have recruit graduation books, that have pictures of your platoon please send scans and we will check if any of the people are listed on the Wall. The video starts with an excerpt of President Truman's VJ Day speech about the returning serviceman. Then a picture of a cover of the Saturday Evening Post, featuring a Norman Rockwell painting, about a returning WWII GI. Then Ed Asner is interviewed about the treatment of the returning Vietnam Vets and other Nam subjects. If you would like to see the first minute of the video, please click on this link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si704PbXo70. The editing on the entire video will be finished in 2 to 3 and be ready for posting on the net. I would be most pleased to have Brigadier General Steve Richie on the video, talking about the Education Center. I do not know how to contact the General, so if someone can pass this on to him, it would be greatly appreciated. My Email address is cardhaven@aol.com |
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Filing Flight Plan
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I don't mean to hijack this thread but I am looking for information about my father who served two tours in Vietnam (gulf of Tonkin incident 1964) and then again in 1969-1970). Like many, he didn't talk much about this, especially when he came home from his second tour in a bottle of bourbon. Colonel Thomas H. (Buck) Barker Jr. Passed away in July 1998. He flew F-100's in Vietnam and apparently was a very good fighter pilot. any information is greatly appreciated. My email can be founding in my profile.
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Filing Flight Plan
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Steve Ritchie has always been a class act. With all his achievements, he chooses to focus on the rescue of his friend, Roger Locher.
Thank you, Steve for remembering the crews, the maintainers and those who died trying to live up to the motto, "... that others may live." - An old Jolly Green pilot |
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Filing Flight Plan
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Great clip and a "Can Do" spirit.
You will notice that there were AF Generals that made the decision to complete the rescue.......... It's called de-centralization and trust. Bravo! The Benghazi debacle was run by civilians at the "VERY" top without adequate knowledge or dedication to protecting our people for blatant political reasons. Having flown in VN in 65,66 & 67, I know that it would've been an easy rescue with all the assets in place around the Med. May a pox be on their house! |
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Filing Flight Plan
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Those of you who have lost close dear friends in this God awful war my heart goes out to those. But yet the memories that stay with us during the Viet Nam War never seems to go away.
I'm so glad those who served are now the voice of America and will not stand for another greeting such as those given to us who returned from Viet Nam. God Bless our American Troops. doclove |
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Filing Flight Plan
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I was in Udorn at the time of the rescue. Was going to post some images of "555" F4 aircraft but am guessing I have not posted before and the posting rules state I "may not post attachments" yet.
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Touchdown! Greaser!
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I only have one question: Why isn't this story already out as a Hollywood movie? Seems like it would be a blockbuster today.
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What a well narrated/delivered account of that rescue! Thanks for sharing.
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En-Route
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It would be very interesting to hear of some of the good flying done by American Pilots, to accomplish those rescues of which you speak.
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Filing Flight Plan
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Seeing and hearing this video makes me wonder how I got the silver wings of a USAF jet pilot. I had no gunnery training. While in the Memphis AFR I flew F-84Es with Tom Nicholson who flew combat in Korea. Tom was everything I was not. Flying with him was an humbling experience.
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