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Old September 19th, 2008, 09:15 PM   #1
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Fatal Plane Crash in York,NE today

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It was this afternoon, a Cessna 172 owned by Randy Hall the airport manager. Went up for an instruction flight...one fatality one at the hospital. God bless the famies and those involved.

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Old September 19th, 2008, 09:19 PM   #2
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Sorry to hear your news. Don't worry, I hope the Arrrs disappear tomorrow once it's no longer Talk Like A Pirate Day.
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Old September 20th, 2008, 12:08 AM   #3
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Re: Fatal Plane Crash in York,NE today

that sucks. I think jack and I saw that 172 flying the day we flew in to York. My prayers are with the families of the those involved.
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Old September 20th, 2008, 06:35 AM   #4
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Re: Fatal Plane Crash in York,NE today

Both the pilot and the passenger were killed according to news reports late last night.
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Old September 20th, 2008, 11:04 AM   #5
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Re: Fatal Plane Crash in York,NE today

I wonder what the wx and winds were doing at the time of the crash.
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Old September 20th, 2008, 04:40 PM   #6
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Re: Fatal Plane Crash in York,NE today

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I wonder what the wx and winds were doing at the time of the crash.
Yesterday was a pretty decent flying day. I really doubt weather was a factor:
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Old September 20th, 2008, 04:56 PM   #7
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Makes one wonder what happened. Looks like it was a little gusty.
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Old September 20th, 2008, 06:06 PM   #8
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Makes one wonder what happened. Looks like it was a little gusty.
It didn't seem too bad in Lincoln
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Re: Fatal Plane Crash in York,NE today

I flew over the wreckage today...pretty big burn mark on the runway. Im not wondering if it stalled after takeoff and just nosed straight into the runway...pure speculation...but thats my observation after seeing the wreckage...RIP
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Re: Fatal Plane Crash in York,NE today

York, NE is one of my favorite long XC fuel stops. Super quick and very friendly, and it has the distinction of being the first place I did a real-life WAAS approach.

Was just there not even two weeks ago...sorry to hear the news.

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Old September 21st, 2008, 08:07 AM   #11
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Re: Fatal Plane Crash in York,NE today

Winds were 7-10 knts, no gusts (I was flying 35 miles away) severe clear, a nice day to fly.

Dave Biba was the name of the instructor killed along with an older new student. Dave a was a good instructor, a nice guy, and a friend. He loved aviation and teaching by the book.

Not real sure what happened yet, but as the above post states it appears a sever stall on take off or T&G. The 172 in the incident had just had a new 180HP Lyc. factory reman engine installed (was 160HP). This is what is so confusing, and sad.

A student of Dave's that had a lesson on 9/17 said power on stalls were difficult due to the new power.

I guess we will find out what happened.

Lets careful out there.

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Old September 29th, 2008, 01:34 PM   #12
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Re: Fatal Plane Crash in York,NE today

i heard today that they thought this was due to the students seat not being locked and sliding back on takeoff. very sad
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i heard today that they thought this was due to the students seat not being locked and sliding back on takeoff. very sad
Wow, that's what I guessed, but didn't want to speculate. I always double check that the seats are locked with a vigorous wiggle before I taxi. This is why.
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Re: Fatal Plane Crash in York,NE today

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i heard today that they thought this was due to the students seat not being locked and sliding back on takeoff. very sad
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Wow, that's what I guessed, but didn't want to speculate. I always double check that the seats are locked with a vigorous wiggle before I taxi. This is why.
I heard a story about that in the town where I grew up. Kid went up solo, seat slid back, he instinctively pulled on whatever he had his hands on to stay forward, ....... . According to the story (could be OWT), he had enough momentum to carry it over the top and actually ended up upside down on the runway.
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Re: Fatal Plane Crash in York,NE today

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I heard a story about that in the town where I grew up. Kid went up solo, seat slid back, he instinctively pulled on whatever he had his hands on to stay forward, ....... . According to the story (could be OWT), he had enough momentum to carry it over the top and actually ended up upside down on the runway.
Well, the easy way to tell if it's an OWT is to look on the NTSB database... Any plane that ended up upside down like that would have to have been substantially damaged...

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I make my students rock the seat before taxi and again just before run-up.
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Re: Fatal Plane Crash in York,NE today

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Wow, that's what I guessed, but didn't want to speculate. I always double check that the seats are locked with a vigorous wiggle before I taxi. This is why.
didn't want to speculate on the cause of an accident? You must be new around here...
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