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Old April 10th, 2012, 10:42 AM   #1
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St. Martin fence surfing

Could not find this if it was posted already. Looks like a fence surfer took one for the team.

http://www.news-journalonline.com/ne...l&VID=23610214

Sorry for the lead in add. I don't know how to edit it out.

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Could not find this if it was posted already. Looks like a fence surfer took one for the team.

http://www.news-journalonline.com/ne...l&VID=23610214

Sorry for the lead in add. I don't know how to edit it out.
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Re: St. Martin fence surfing

Probably deaf too.

You gotta love the reporter comments. Wild and crazy days where you might get hurt. Sheesh. Softie panzies. My parents would have been out there encouraging us to do that and helping us hold onto the fence if we were scared or weren't strong enough to hold on.
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Old April 10th, 2012, 11:58 AM
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Re: St. Martin fence surfing

Wimps... Ciara and I WILL do that someday with appropriate eye and ear protection.
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Wimps... Ciara and I WILL do that someday with appropriate eye and ear protection.
I too would love to put on goggles and earplugs and hang on to that fence
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Re: St. Martin fence surfing

I used to fly there in a B727. The number 2 engine is wayyyyy back there and I can't imagine standing point blank in front of it while we do a static takeoff. There was always a ton of people lined up though...
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Probably deaf too.

You gotta love the reporter comments. Wild and crazy days where you might get hurt. Sheesh. Softie panzies. My parents would have been out there encouraging us to do that and helping us hold onto the fence if we were scared or weren't strong enough to hold on.

My dad would have been yelling to "let go!"
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Just the kerosene smell is bad enough to make you quit. Even when taxing behind jets my wife can not stand the smell.

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Re: St. Martin fence surfing

Unfortunately, from some discussion on another board....sounds like this won't go over well for the B6 crew.
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Just the kerosene smell is bad enough to make you quit. Even when taxing behind jets my wife can not stand the smell.

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No kidding, everyone else wanted to fly one of the turbine Thrushes, suited me fine, I wanted the Bull Thrush with the 1820. To me hot reloads in a turbine would have me choking back vomit and gasping for breath leaving me hypoxic on take off.
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Re: St. Martin fence surfing

One of my favorite vids from that beach is a party who elected to erect a beach umbrella and spread out blankets about 6 feet from the road. A KLM 747 positioned for takeoff and I'll bet you can guess the rest!!
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Just the kerosene smell is bad enough to make you quit. Even when taxing behind jets my wife can not stand the smell.

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OK, goggles, earplugs .... and a respirator

Ready to fence-surf:

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My dad would have been yelling to "let go!"
Yea, that too.

Now I KNOW you and I are related Henning.
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OK, goggles, earplugs .... and a respirator

Ready to fence-surf:

That gets you ready, now you need a tether you can trim for pitch and lateral and a Corlis style wing suit and we're having some real fun.
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Old April 10th, 2012, 01:23 PM
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Is fence surfing the new planking or something?
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Re: St. Martin fence surfing

If the regulatory bodies don't kill it soon, I bet the airlines will - liability concerns. Not that I approve.
What is the legal situation in St. Martin? U.S.-like?
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If the regulatory bodies don't kill it soon, I bet the airlines will - liability concerns. Not that I approve.
What is the legal situation in St. Martin? U.S.-like?
Not even Europe is as Nanny State oriented.

If some video goes viral they'll stage contests and set up concession.

America is soooo pussified it's hopeless. We allow fear and insurance dictate our actions more than anywhere else I've ever been.
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America is soooo pussified it's hopeless. We allow fear and insurance dictate our actions more than anywhere else I've ever been.
Sadly, this is true. One of my favorite pastimes on a sunny day in Paris is watching the American tourists crossing the street and discovering that the law in France states a driver must miss pedestrians by at least a meter!!
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Re: St. Martin fence surfing

I usually look out the back window of my plane, then yell "CLEAR!" and then start the engine. These pilots can't do that.

If I had gloves I would totally love to be standing there (I suck at holding on to things my hands are not strong).
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Old April 16th, 2012, 05:22 PM   #20
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No kidding, everyone else wanted to fly one of the turbine Thrushes, suited me fine, I wanted the Bull Thrush with the 1820. To me hot reloads in a turbine would have me choking back vomit and gasping for breath leaving me hypoxic on take off.
I used to find that the exhaust burned my eyes when taxiing with the canopy door open in the turbine Dromader. There's a lot to be said for turbine reliability and performance, though. The 802 makes for quite an airplane.
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I used to find that the exhaust burned my eyes when taxiing with the canopy door open in the turbine Dromader. There's a lot to be said for turbine reliability and performance, though. The 802 makes for quite an airplane.

I am not fond of the 802, it's taken too many good people and pilots including my friend and Leland Snow's son in law Alan. (He was the last of those I trained Ag with to die outside myself including the instructor and his son.)I'm really not fond of flying planes that require me to roll in flaps on every working turn. I loved flying the Ag Cat. With gear nose 1340 AN2 an S-2R was an excellent plane. Everything from there IMO has been no better from Snow. I don't think they got dangerous until the 802 series though and I think if the attack plane would ever go into service, a lot of service pilots will die in it. It's not fast enough in any regards. In WWII they were doing twice as fast for the same HP & load.
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Speed isn't everything. In fact, in ag, it's nothing. Still, it's the fastest ag airplane enroute to and from the field.

Have you flown the 802? I'd heard a lot of people badmouth it, but reserved my opinion until I flew it; it's a very capable ag airplane.

One really can't compare the P51 to the 802; entirely different aircraft with entirely different missions and design purposes.

It makes a great firefighting platform, too. There, as well, it's not about speed.

As for rolling in flaps in every turn, you can, and some do, but it's not necessary.
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Speed isn't everything. In fact, in ag, it's nothing. Still, it's the fastest ag airplane enroute to and from the field.

Have you flown the 802? I'd heard a lot of people badmouth it, but reserved my opinion until I flew it; it's a very capable ag airplane.

One really can't compare the P51 to the 802; entirely different aircraft with entirely different missions and design purposes.

It makes a great firefighting platform, too. There, as well, it's not about speed.

As for rolling in flaps in every turn, you can, and some do, but it's not necessary.

Yeah, I got a ride in an 802AF way back, and that's what it should have stayed. It should never have been tasked with an agricultural roll except maybe seed and fertilize. It's too damned big to drop to the <3' boom height to avoid drift. If you don't use flaps doing turns in a turbine AT, it starts getting kind of uneconomical fuel wise. Every Ag operator I knew pushed it and had it under your stick thumb. I think they need to hire me to modify the tip of the AF floats to allow it to take off from displacement though. That is a big fail with a not so tough cure.
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Is fence surfing the new planking or something?
What is planking? Or do I not want to know?
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What is planking? Or do I not want to know?
People lay horizontally tight across 2 points, makes for some funny 'G' rated pics.
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