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Signal vs power ground issues usually don’t change much over 4 hrs. So I’m skeptical about that being the cause. Does the unit have an internal backup battery? Because it’s a 4 hr problem, I’d look in that direction. If you’re still wanting to go down the bad ground path …. with very small...

There’s a manufacturing joint just forward of the door that connects the cockpit to the fuselage. There are 2 marks on the wall. Both are probably at least 12 ft above the ground so the aircraft was probably airborne as it impacted the wall. Huge amount of kinetic energy to absorb. The wall...

This one has cables. I live there.

We were home. About a mile from where the they turned south instead of proceeding to the runway extension. Too close! Awaiting NTSB final.

Thanks. I hadn’t seen that.

We need to see the CVR transcript to determine if the posted power lever theory has validity. Another possibility is one engine failed and they mistakenly shut down the good one. It’s happened.

Thanks.75S still closed. R.R. Also said trust but verify. NTSB is the best.

I’m sorry I’ve offended all of you. Doc, Don & Doug, each of you certainly have more hours and understand corporate aviation better than I do. So please accept my apologies. I was rude and offensive at the very least. I don’t fly anymore. But I’m still a corporate aviation enthusiast. I can’t...

Attacking me is not offensive. Especially when you have no new information to present.

# 2, 3 are easy. Hit GA. Briefed before Apply thrust, positive rate of climb, runway heading, go around and sort it out. # 1: FADEC turns on ignitors if needed. A/C will easily GA on one good engine -especially when light and at sea level. Back to … what’s common to both engines?

Thanks Doc. I’m not familiar with that program but I had a SIDA badge for 10 years. You challenge everyone that’s not badged or accompanied by a badge that includes that rating. Two “On-Condition” engines failing on short final has to be an Extremely Unlikely (FAA definition) event. I believe...

Ok. You’re right. The FBI then. People that know these aircraft are really scratching their heads. This ship shows it flies several charters a week so it was not a hanger queen they just threw on the line. As I said, I hope I’m wrong.

Thanks, I understand 135. But neither would provide the crew with any real deterrent. I’m quite sure that gust questioning a pax or a call back to the office questioning a passenger’s viability would cause a crew member a lot of grief. There are a lot of sick people out there that aren’t being...

I agree. Could have easily been caused by someone that was on-board. Crew mistake OR a pax intent on suicide. The FBO and cockpit are not secure like a CRJ. ANXIOUSLY awaiting CVR & FDR results.

All the possibilities have been covered here except one. I’m retired from the corporate aviation field (30+ years + 10 years below wing with a major CRJ operator but not a pilot) Call me crazy but there is no real security that would prevent a pax from boarding this A/C and taking it down...