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How about it’s just nobody’s business what the N number of any plane out there is.
It was not my intent to call you out, I sincerely hoped the registration office had come to its senses.You may be right and I may be wrong, I may have seen the airman registry opt out option and assumed aircraft registration was the same.
Although... in Taylor Swift's case the n-number registry will certainly point to a corporation, not her personal address... something us ordinary folks don't bother with.
I'm not pretending anything. I didn't think this is a problem, and you haven't shown that it is. More importantly, what does your scenario have to do with the thread topic?Ok, I'll bite. You keep pretending you're not getting it.
Crazy guy sees N-number of plane he's convinced is flying too low, and decides to take matters into his own hands. He puts that number in a search engine, and that returns the owner's name and address, because the FAA made that public information. He can then go there and do whatever.
He doesn't have to wait for the owner to leave the airport and go home, following him all the way. He has all that information in a minute. You don't think that's a problem?
But they're painted right on the side.How about it’s just nobody’s business what the N number of any plane out there is.
I like to think that I'm ordinary folk. And you would not have found my personal address if you were to look up my Cessna registration.You may be right and I may be wrong, I may have seen the airman registry opt out option and assumed aircraft registration was the same.
Although... in Taylor Swift's case the n-number registry will certainly point to a corporation, not her personal address... something us ordinary folks don't bother with.
Nah man it was Bill Gates, private sector! Gotta sell that data to the ad companies.Of course we all know that those who received a Covid vaccine now has a government tracking device installed inside them...
The government didn't need that... almost all of us carry a device everywhere that can easily be tracked.Of course we all know that those who received a Covid vaccine now has a government tracking device installed inside them...
Of course this is legal. Why wouldn't it be?Would it/Should it be legal for thousands of people to band together, put license plate spotters on every corner and publish the whereabouts of every car in realtime?
I bet it won't be after somebody actually tries it.Of course this is legal. Why wouldn't it be?
How and why would you outlaw that?I bet it won't be after somebody actually tries it.
I bet it won't be after somebody actually tries it.
Paul Newman was the same way at the racetrack. He wanted to be one of the drivers, not a celebrity.
How about we make adsb voluntary? I sure don't like my info being out there.The FAA isn't making any of this information public. It's coming from private ADSB receivers. Do you want to make it illegal to receive radio waves?
The bassoon groupies were a real pain. I could never find them.I was the same way when I was racing. I needed a respite from all the engineer groupies and paparazzi.
Follow the bouncing ball:Tries what?
Would it/Should it be legal for thousands of people to band together, put license plate spotters on every corner and publish the whereabouts of every car in realtime?
Of course this is legal. Why wouldn't it be?
I bet it won't be after somebody actually tries it.
There would be such a hue and cry, I wouldn't need to do anything. People only want to know where others are, wouldn't stand for it the other way around. (I hope.)How and why would you outlaw that?
The bassoon groupies were a real pain. I could never find them.
Do you want to make it illegal to receive radio waves?
Except Swift posts where she'll be months in advance. I actually wish someone would do this for the Al Gore, John Kerry, Greta Thunberg crowd.I blocked mine immediately after receiving a call or text every time I flew somewhere. I’d get a creepy message.. “ Oh I see you’re back in FL, TX, NY, etc. what you up to…?” This was from someone with no reason or business to monitor me or my family’s whereabouts. For safety, I would never post our location anywhere. I don’t want it tracked or posted by anyone else either.
Exactly.I blocked mine immediately after receiving a call or text every time I flew somewhere. I’d get a creepy message.. “ Oh I see you’re back in FL, TX, NY, etc. what you up to…?” This was from someone with no reason or business to monitor me or my family’s whereabouts. For safety, I would never post our location anywhere. I don’t want it tracked or posted by anyone else either.
Along with an easily searchable database that tells you the owner of the vehicle by referencing the tag number...Would it/Should it be legal for thousands of people to band together, put license plate spotters on every corner and publish the whereabouts of every car in realtime?
Didn’t Lindbergh leave the country for a couple years to avoid the press/crowds etc after his son’s death?I think Ms. Swift is very safe next to her boyfriend.
That "easily looked up" depends on the state. And that address need not be your home address...The aircraft registration information doesn't tell people where the owner lives?
Even if you register it under an LLC, the LLC still needs a valid address that can be easily looked up.
yes, are you an inside trader?Have you ever seen the movie "Wall Street"?
It would be when you search for n1234 and you don’t get joe pilot at 123 Main Street from the faa (/ntsb if you were in an accident.)What is "N number privacy"? Your N number is painted on the side of your plane. If someone wants to know what your N number is, they just have to watch you go to the airport. This is actually much more reliable than using the FAA database.
You can get that info from license plates, just not on Google. And feel free to register your plane to an entity or use a PO Box or both. Boom. Privacy.It would be when you search for n1234 and you don’t get joe pilot at 123 Main Street from the faa (/ntsb if you were in an accident.)
You don’t get that info from auto license plates so why for an airplane?
Do you have an exit from your house through a cave with a hidden exit?Exactly.
The location of your plane or your personal travel info gives away where you are and more importantly where you aren't.
I don't want anyone to be able to easily deduce that I am not home to defend my wife and property.
As the US continues to devolve into a low-trust society, the opsec of your family should be a bigger consideration in your life.
Ok, short of someone that works in some law enforcement or government agency, who can look up a license plate? And owners shouldn't have to register LLCs to a PO box in a state that's a bit more private on what information they publish on LLCs to get the equivalent level of privacy afforded by blinds on their windows.You can get that info from license plates, just not on Google. And feel free to register your plane to an entity or use a PO Box or both. Boom. Privacy.
Not everyone lives in a single family home in a suburb. Some people might not draw any particular attention as they exit the building they live in.Do you have an exit from your house through a cave with a hidden exit?
I think Ms. Swift is very safe next to her boyfriend.